One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that if you have a near miss 
incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal incident would be 
investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is due, but so that the same 
situation can be avoided in the future. Organisations that fail to do this are 
doomed to repeat their mistakes, not necessarily by the same people, who may 
well have learned, but often by other departments, where the people did not get 
the opportunity to learn by the mistake. Refusal to answer reasonable and 
legitimate questions by stakeholders often leads to accusations of conspiracy 
and bad faith and can end in the local demagogues, of which we have an adequate 
supply, inciting the torch and pitchfork brigade. Things may go downhill at 
this point.
Cheers,
Peter

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From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org 
[mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 8:43 AM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in Italy 
largely blocked by WMF fundraising

Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations (like the 
WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources / FDC) were working 
from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising has agreed to change their 
plans, I think we should give them some breathing room, especially because they 
say that banner scheduling will be coordinated next year.



Pine


On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Peter Southwood < 
peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:

> Who set the targets that will now not be met, how were they decided, 
> and when were they set? I must assume that WLM annual project was not 
> taken into consideration by these planners.
> Cheers,
> P
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:
> wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Pine W
> Sent: Thursday, 03 September 2015 10:51 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments 
> in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising
>
> I just want to respond to this point in particular:
>
> "Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time 
> in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a 
> target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up for 
> work missed in September.
> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will 
> need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for 
> missing the September target."
>
> It was somewhat courageous for WMF Fundraising to change its schedule 
> and forecast missing a target as a result. Two quotes seem appropriate 
> in the context of this conversation, particularly regarding WMF's 
> taking the community's priorities into account and absorbing the risks 
> to its plans that come with changing to accommodate WLM:
>
> "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what 
> it takes to sit down and listen." -- Winston Churchill.
>
> "Either you decide to stay in the shallow end of the pool or you go 
> out in the ocean." --Christopher Reeve
>
> Thanks Megan and all.
>
> Pine
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Mathias Damour < 
> mathias.dam...@laposte.net
> > wrote:
>
> > Le 31/08/2015 13:02, Megan Hernandez a écrit :
> >
> >> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first 
> >> time in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting 
> >> a target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up 
> >> for work missed in September.
> >> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there 
> >> will need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up 
> >> for missing the September target.
> >>
> >
> > The WMF team is without any doubt very professional in "meeting its 
> > target" and in smooth communication.
> >
> > We should also understand that despite the huge growth of the WMF 
> > these last few years, it may feel an inferiority complex and think 
> > it has a backlog to catch up compared to some much richer 
> > neighbouring companies in the San Francisco Bay ! I guess they 
> > roughly think: "Why should we have 15 time less employees than 
> > Twitter !" That's why raising up the fundraising targets can be more 
> > important than to facilitate a WLM event in just one not-so-big 
> > country ! :-P
> >
> > Nevertheless it still give the impression of taking the word-wide 
> > donors, the volunteers and the other entities (chapters) for 
> > pawns/chess pieces that you may move or stop whenever you want or need...
> > Maybe the ones to blame are the neighbouring internet companies for 
> > setting a bad example to the WMF... :-\
> >
> > --
> > Mathias Damour
> > [[User:Astirmays]]
> >
> >
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