I too question the need for a private mailing list. We should require more
than a just a "consistent request" before we reduce transparency and create
yet another walled garden away from the community.

--Ed
On Oct 16, 2015 12:07 AM, "Pine W" <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Got it. Thanks Varnent.
>
> Regarding the privacy question: I'm sort of thinking that if we really want
> to keep the new list private for legal or other reasons, it should be run
> outside of WMF servers like the chapters list is. On the other hand, if the
> purpose of the new list is to facilitate discussion among affiliates in a
> smaller and less public group while still being open to WMF employees to a
> limited degree, then the hosting proposed here makes sense. Personally, I
> get the sense that the affiliate and WMF relationships have generally
> (there are exceptions) warmed a bit over the past couple of years as
> affiliate governance and leadership have evolved and as WMF's evaluation
> capacity has improved, so I'm fine with the new design. Thanks for working
> on this.
>
> Pine
> On Oct 15, 2015 8:55 PM, "Gregory Varnum" <gregory.var...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Pine,
> >
> > As you know, AffCom started looking into this list after some discussions
> > with affiliates in Berlin, Wikimania, and at that page you referred to.
> We
> > did talk with that list’s moderators about potentially reusing that list
> > (largely why the creation of this list took awhile). However, ultimately,
> > we decided to proceed with the creation of this list.
> >
> > The old list is not on Wikimedia servers or officially connected to
> > AffCom, so I cannot speak to its future. However, it has becoming
> > increasingly inactive, is limited to chapters (so excludes a majority of
> > our affiliates), and not something we have promoted recently. My personal
> > hope is that this new broader list replaces that one over time, but that
> is
> > not something we can “force” as it’s not a resource we officially help
> > manage.
> >
> > -greg (User:Varnent)
> > Vice Chair, Affiliations Committee
> >
> >
> > > On Oct 15, 2015, at 5:19 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Carlos,
> > >
> > > Can you clarify how this list relates to the existing chapters mailing
> > > list? (Also, please see the discussion at
> > >
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Affiliates_Network#Mailing_list_request_for_comment
> > > ).
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Pine
> > >
> > > On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Carlos M. Colina <
> > ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Dear all,
> > >>
> > >> On behalf of the Affiliations Committe, I am pleased to introduce the
> > >> launch of the Wikimedia Affiliates mailing list, which is basically a
> > place
> > >> for all the affiliates (chapters, thematic organizations, user groups)
> > to
> > >> discuss issues related to affiliates, make announcements to other
> > >> affiliates, and collaborate on activities and community-wide events.
> The
> > >> idea is to help facilitate the dialogue affiliates across our
> movement,
> > >> plus collaborative discussions like community-wide activities, joint
> > >> edit-a-thons, regional conferences, blog/report posts, or other
> > >> communications from affiliates.
> > >>
> > >> Each Wikimedia movement affiliate is allocated three spots on the
> > mailing
> > >> list. All affiliates may contact the Affiliations Committee to request
> > >> additional spots if needed.
> > >>
> > >> Please find a bit more information on Meta:
> > >>
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_movement_affiliates/Affiliates_mailing_list
> > >> and do not hesitate contacting us if you have further questions.
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >> Carlos
> > >> --
> > >> "*Jülüjain wane mmakat* ein kapülain tü alijunakalirua jee
> wayuukanairua
> > >> junain ekerolaa alümüin supüshuwayale etijaanaka. Ayatashi waya
> junain."
> > >> Carlos M. Colina
> > >> Socio, A.C. Wikimedia Venezuela | RIF J-40129321-2 |
> > www.wikimedia.org.ve
> > >> <http://wikimedia.org.ve>
> > >> Chair, Wikimedia Foundation Affiliations Committee
> > >> Phone: +972-52-4869915
> > >> Twitter: @maor_x
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