On 20 October 2015 at 18:00, Romaine Wiki <romaine.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Ow yes, I remember a affiliate specific issue that was not handled > appropriate by some users from outside any affiliate. > > And also this discussion here doesn't give a comfortable feeling (in my > opinion) to affiliates to do (always) a public discussion. If I as > affiliate member, want to have feedback from my colleagues, I am not > waiting for a hostile environment. > > Snipping this separately. There are almost 90 affiliates (including chapters and thematic organizations), and this number is growing rapidly. If each one can have two or three members of this mailing list, we're talking hundreds of subscribers. A list with that many subscribers is never going to really remain private and confidential. Anyone who is discussing anything 'sensitive' on a list with that many subscribers is, frankly, doing it in the wrong place. The existing chapters-l and internal-l mailing lists used to leak like sieves when they were in heavy use (and in addition the information that was leaked was often distorted and incomplete). The mailing list can be configured so that only recognized subscribers can post but anyone can view. This has several advantages: reduced mailing list management time/costs, ability of other chapter execs/members to keep up with discussions when the subscriber members are unavailable, ability of potential user groups and other affiliates to learn from osmosis, not only from current discussions but from archives. Learning patterns can be pulled out of the archives once the list has been around for a while. Public lists also tend to moderate the behaviour of those who may push things in inappropriate directions (sexist or harassing comments, bullying, etc). I don't have a pony in this race, but I do have a ton of experience with nonpublic Wikimedia movement related mailing lists - and most of the ones that "work" effectively and are good methods for sharing information are ones with very specific and narrow functions that deal with information that is covered under the access to nonpublic information policy. Regardless of whether the decision is a public or a private list, ensure that there are hard rules about who can and cannot subscribe, what actions will be considered unacceptable, and what will be done if any subscriber behaves inappropriately (e.g., does the person get unsubscribed, is there an appeal mechanism, what's the complaints mechanism, do affiliates who have a member "unsubscribed" get to replace that person with someone else, etc.) Risker/Anne _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
