interesting. i read 90% male, 85% between 16 and 30 years of age, 12
mio players a day, 1 bio hours played a month (2012). they had a
tribunal which is switched off since a year. the market is 54 mio usd
a month for multiplayer online battle arena (moba) in the united
states. league of legends earns 120 mio usd per month, out of a
monthly player base of over 60 mio, which is 3 times more player than
dota2, and 6 times more income than dota2 (beginning of 2015).


On Sat, Nov 14, 2015 at 8:25 AM, Ryan Kaldari <> wrote:
> I was skeptical of even reading this article, but it actually seems pretty
> insightful. It also seems more relevant to Wikipedia than I was expecting:
> "The answer had to be community-wide reform of cultural norms. We had to
> change how people thought about online society and change their
> expectations of what was acceptable.... How do you introduce structure and
> governance into a society that didn’t have one before?"
> It has some interesting ideas about using science to change the social
> dynamics of online communities and leveraging the work of academics who
> want to work on these problems. Some of the techniques they used remind me
> of Aaron's revision scoring. I wonder if there's any chance we could talk
> with them or some of their researchers.
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2015 at 3:12 PM, Denny Vrandečić <>
> wrote:
>> Very interesting read (via Brandon Harris):
>> "the vast majority of negative behavior ... did not originate from the
>> persistently negative online citizens; in fact, 87 percent of online
>> toxicity came from the neutral and positive citizens just having a bad day
>> here or there."
>> "... incidences of homophobia, sexism and racism ... have fallen to a
>> combined 2 percent of all games. Verbal abuse has dropped by more than 40
>> percent, and 91.6 percent of negative players change their act and never
>> commit another offense after just one reported penalty."
>> I have plenty of ideas how to apply this to Wikipedia, but I am sure Dario
>> and his team as well :) - and some opportunity for the communities to use
>> such results.

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