Hoi,
To belabour the point, we do make errors, we will fail in expectations.
What we need is not complaining that the world is not perfect, we need to
have an approach that will improve our data and is inclusive. We need to be
more of a wiki.
Thanks,
     GerardM

On 25 November 2015 at 04:57, Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> this isnt about how or whats of Google its about ensuring that what we do
> is trustworthy
>
> On 25 November 2015 at 08:12, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 24, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Leila Zia <le...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > It's worth mentioning:
> > >
> > > Dominant search engines do not rely on one source of information to
> > surface
> > > results, they get information from many sources, weigh the responses
> they
> > > get based on the trust on the sources and many other factors, and
> > aggregate
> > > to find the best answer to be shown to the user.
> > >
> >
> >
> > Have you never seen Google display gross Wikipedia vandalism?[1][2] Cases
> > like that make it very clear that the Wikimedia content in question
> entered
> > Google directly, without human oversight or cross-checking against other
> > sources. What you describe sounds good, but it didn't happen.
> >
> > If even transient vandalism passes through (the Finnish vandalism was
> > reportedly deleted in Wikipedia within minutes), then so can more subtle
> > and long-lived errors and falsehoods.
> >
> > Similarly, Bing Satori's timeline is simply made up of verbatim Wikipedia
> > sentences containing a numerical year.
> >
> > We know far too little about how search engines import Wikipedia and
> > Wikidata content, and what proportion of content is checked and how.
> >
> >
> >
> > > I just used "chicken pox" as a search query in Google, I see an
> > information
> > > box on the right-hand-side of the page about the disease, and when I
> > click
> > > on Sources I get this page
> > > <
> > >
> >
> https://support.google.com/websearch/answer/2364942?p=medical_conditions&rd=1
> > > >
> > > ("See where we found the medical information") which shows all the
> > sources
> > > Google has used to retrieve information about chicken pox from, nothing
> > in
> > > that list starts with wiki. Of course, this is not the case for all
> > search
> > > queries, for some of them, Google still uses Wikipedia snippets.
> >
> >
> >
> > For medical queries, Google (rightly) prefers other sources, so those
> > queries are not presently affected.
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://www.seroundtable.com/google-world-series-cardinals-blunder-17587.html
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Wikipedia_vandalism_in_Google_infobox_from_flagged_revisions_stabilized_article_25.2.2015.png
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