Try when logged out - the links worked fine for me after logging out.

Thanks,
Mike

> On 4 Dec 2015, at 15:54, Peter Southwood <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
> 
> Lisa, when you give us links to look at new versions of banners, please try 
> to use links that actually display the banners.
> Cheers,
> Peter
> 
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> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf 
> Of Lisa Gruwell
> Sent: Thursday, 03 December 2015 9:30 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] (no subject)
> 
> We agree with you that WMF fundraising should not use stock photography.
> This was a mistake by a designer.  We specify in our contracts with outside 
> designers that the images used should be custom artwork that WMF owns (and 
> can then share) or freely licensed images.  We pulled that banner yesterday 
> and asked our designers for a new custom image that we can freely license.
> We are running another banner with a custom light bulb image at 100% now.
> This artwork will be added to Commons.   We also have a few new banners
> featuring some beautiful Commons images that are under development:   Stars
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/?banner=B1516_0916_en6C_dsk_p1_lg_strinf&force=1&country=US>
> , Penguin
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/?banner=B1516_0916_en6C_dsk_p1_lg_pngsml&force=1&country=US>
> Thank
> you for pointing this out to us.
> 
> 
> 
> Best,
> 
> Lisa
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Rob <gamali...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I don't think this rises to the level of outrage, but it's a little 
>> important.  The goal of the WMF should be to promote free and open 
>> content, and this adds to the perception that the WMF is disconnected 
>> from those goals and the community.  I don't care if they use a stock 
>> photo if they need to, but when they have smart, capable, and creative 
>> people like Victor Grigas on staff, they can certainly manage to 
>> photograph a cup of coffee and release it as a CC photo to set a good 
>> example for the community and movement.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 4:41 AM, Gerard Meijssen 
>> <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hoi,
>>> It is that time of year where money is asked from the people. 
>>> Arguably we would do more when the Wikimedia foundation was not so 
>>> FF-ing Wikipedia centred.The arguments for not giving Wikisource 
>>> have passed their sell by date and usability for exposing its 
>>> wonderful work is imho a
>> disfigurement
>>> on the resume of the WMF (among others). This is a cheap one to fix. 
>>> It makes sense to fix it as I understand sources are part of 
>>> "Wikimedia
>> Zero"
>>> and it would make a world of a difference when the sources can 
>>> actually
>> be
>>> found.
>>> 
>>> Unicef among others has fundraising campaigns for education because 
>>> it is not its most important priority. As long as kids die because 
>>> of lack of food, safe water, preventable disease and temperature it is 
>>> obvious why.
>>> Such an excuse the WMF does not have. It could ask for additional 
>>> funding for Wikisource, for Wikidata for ... and it would have a solid 
>>> argument.
>>> Thanks,
>>>      GerardM
>>> 
>>>> On 3 December 2015 at 10:25, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 10:09 AM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Under the redesigned grants scheme, WMF Project grants might be 
>>>>> able
>> to
>>>>> help with this kind of software development work for Commons 
>>>>> and/or Wikisource. I happen to know a developer here in Cascadia 
>>>>> who might be interested, either as an individual or in 
>>>>> association with a Wikimedia affiliate, in doing this kind of work on a 
>>>>> grant or contract basis.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pinging Kacie for comment about possible grant funding. (:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Pine, thanks for the comment.
>>>> I understand what you mean, and I do believe there is space to work 
>>>> on Wikisource via grants, BUT.
>>>> 
>>>> But I already did a Individual Engagement Grant in 2013 (with David
>> Cuenca)
>>>> regarding Wikisource.
>>>> It was great, but IEGs don't give you staff time. So me and David 
>>>> used Google Summer of Code, and we mentored 4 projects: if I'm not 
>>>> mistaken, only one was really finished, meaning it produced 
>>>> concrete results on Wikisource. Others stopped before (for example, 
>>>> two dedicated mediawiki extensions were not put in production). 
>>>> Within the IEG, we made a big survey among Wikisource communities, 
>>>> to develop a wishlist and a roadmap for WS communities. We set up a 
>>>> Wikisource Community User Group. We
>> talked
>>>> and talked. Bugs were and are reported, from years. Two weeks ago, 
>>>> we convened the very first internationl Wikisource conference, in 
>>>> Vienna, hosted by Wikimedia Austria (3 members from WMF were there, 
>>>> and we had a great and productive time, reports will follow).
>>>> 
>>>> I've personally been involved in all of these efforts, so I've also 
>>>> seen that real impact of Wikisource infrastructure (core WS 
>>>> extension,
>> design,
>>>> interface, performance, development) has been minimal. I don't 
>>>> really
>> want
>>>> to have this conversation here and now, but I have had a fair 
>>>> amount of experience in this to say that until the WMF (or some 
>>>> affiliate big
>> enough
>>>> and high enough in the software pipeline) commit to WS, change 
>>>> won't magically happen by itself. We have practically one real 
>>>> volunteer developer, and he's full of work to do (also, I already 
>>>> asked him if he would like to receive a grant to work on certain 
>>>> issues, and he can't,
>> and
>>>> he's the only one who could do that, thanks to his unique experience).
>>>> 
>>>> Grant works for little things, I'm afraid. Major change requires
>> something
>>>> else.
>>>> 
>>>> Aubrey
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