Hoi,
What other people say is there choice. The law is simple. Facts cannot be
copyrighted and consequently the preference / the opinion of Denny is
simply that.

Typically statistics organisations are more than happy to share their data.
They do so in the Netherlands and it is only for a lack of organisation on
our end that it has not happened yet.

When I copy data from Wikipedia, it is unstructured in every sense. As a
follow up I often spend time to improve upon it further.

I do not care for your opinion. So far I only have seen your FUD, you
present preferences of people like Denny as a ground for compliance, it is
not and there is not much positive in what I have seen from you so far.

What is your contribution, what is it that you hope to achieve?

You point to organisations like statistics organisation like they are the
ones not interested in collaboration. They are ever so happy to collaborate
and we are happy to acknowledge them for the source of information when
they do. By seeking collaboration, by seeking to bring data together and
achieve more, we are able to make a difference. This is not done by
publicly claiming like you do that you are not involved and do not want to
know. It is done by being involved, knowing what quality means and how we
can achieve it and walking the walk and talk the talk.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 10 December 2015 at 13:17, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com
> > wrote:
>
> > The case for the CC-0 license is so in line with what the WMF stands for.
> > Our aim is to share in the sum of all knowledge and it is the most
> obvious
> > way to do it. When Wikidata is found to document falsehoods or
> established
> > truths that are problematic, we gain a quality where people come to
> > Wikidata to learn what they need to learn.
> >
>
>
> According to Denny, Wikidata, under its CC0 licence, must not import data
> from Share-Alike sources. He reconfirmed this yesterday when I asked him
> whether he still stood by that.
>
> In practice though we have Wikidata importing massive amounts of data from
> Wikipedia, which was a Share-Alike source last time I looked. Isn't
> Wikidata then infringing Wikipedia contributors' rights?
>
> Why is it okay to import data from the CC BY-SA Wikipedia, but not from
> European CC BY-SA population statistics?
>
> There are inchoate and uncomfortable parallels to licence laundering here,
> which I would hope is not something the WMF stands for. Could someone
> please explain?
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