Given the timing (less than a month after the last Board Meeting), and some
of the comments at Jimbo's talk, it seems likely that a special meeting was
called with the question of dismissing James from the Board as a major (and
perhaps only) topic.  However, no one has explicitly said if this was a
special meeting or whether there were any other topics on the Agenda.

Based on James statements, after the vote he was also ejected from the
meeting.  Presumably if the Board wanted to discuss a joint statement or
communication strategy then they could have asked him to stay for that
purpose.  No one has said whether there was any discussion of creating a
joint statement prior to this going public, though Jimbo said that he
wishes that James had waited to make the announcement "in a time and manner
that both his perspective and that of other board members could be
presented fully".  James also said that he had been encouraged to resign
for several weeks, so this clearly wasn't something that occurred as an
emergency with no opportunity to plan at all.

If the Board wanted a joint announcement and James refused, that would be
interesting.  If the Board wanted a joint announcement but neglected to
discuss that with James before ejecting him from the meeting, then that
suggests poor handling by the Board.

-Robert Rohde


On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 9:25 PM, olatunde isaac <reachout2is...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm very disappointed to know that the board meeting was still ongoing as
> at the time James revealed that he was ejected from the board. It is a
> silly idea! Perhaps he felt the community can stop the meeting or override
> the decision of the board of trustee. The WMF BoT is not a parliament where
> the house do not have the veto power to remove an elected member.
> Section 7 (remover) of the WMF's bylaws clearly stipulated that
> “Any Trustee may be removed, with or without cause, by a majority vote of
> the Trustees then in office in accordance with the procedures set forth in
> Section 617.0808(1), or other relevant provisions of the Act”. Based on
> this bylaw, James remover is justified!
> I understand that majority of the community members who elected James are
> likely not to be aware of this provisions but James is aware of it and will
> probably have an answer to (1) the reason for his remover (2) why his
> remover was supported by eight members and (3) why the third
> community-elected trustee, Denny Vrandečić, lost confidence supported his
> removal.
> The fact that James never stated the reasons why he was ejected from the
> board as at the time he disclosed his remover is worrisome.
> James, I'm sorry if I'm too factual here.
>
> Best,
>
> Olatunde Isaac.
> Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 09:44:38 -0500
> From: Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board
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> "Well, tell that to James. He's the one who went public without warning in
> the middle of the meeting. You are 100% wrong that this is a decision
> *against* the community. I know why I voted the way I did - and it has to
> do with my strong belief in the values of this community and the
> responsibilities of board members to uphold those values. If a board member
> fails the community in such a serious way, tough decisions have to be made
> about what to do.--Jimbo Wales
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales> (talk
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#top>) 20:57, 29
> December 2015 (UTC)"
>
> Comment from Jimmy, both implicitly criticizing James Heilman for revealing
> that he was ejected from the board and suggesting that James failed to
> uphold the values of the community in a serious way. Later on Jimmy tries
> to walk back the criticism as "merely stating a fact."
>
> James responded by pointing out that he was removed from the board and then
> told to leave the room, at which point he posted to the mailing list. The
> complaint that he published the decision while the meeting was ongoing is
> silly, although I can certainly see why the remaining members would have
> preferred to control the narrative themselves.
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 15:10:33 +0000
> From: Fæ <fae...@gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board
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> I'm sure that board members would have preferred for the WMF Chairperson to
> make a statement, rather Jimmy publishing personal opinions as "facts".
>
> The comments about James are disappointing for many reasons, but should be
> given appropriate weight... probably a lot less weight than James' own
> comments, in the light of how several past WMF political non-successes
> played out.
>
> Fae
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 16:47:29 +0100
> From: Thomas Goldammer <tho...@gmail.com>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board
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> @Jimmy Wales: The problem is not that James was too fast to publish the
> fact that he was ejected. I'm pretty sure if the Board decided to boot you
> out, you would have posted something, too. And that's absolutely natural.
>
> The problem is merely that the Board is too slow to publish the reasons for
> the decision. If you make such a sweeping decision, even if not planned
> ahead at all, you do have the obligation to sit down together immediately
> and write that statement - you know that there is that community out there,
> and you knew very well what would happen on this mailing list. And it's
> really not as if you were a magician who was asked to explain his trick.
>
> Th.
>
> 2015-12-30 15:44 GMT+01:00 Nathan <nawr...@gmail.com>:
>
> > "Well, tell that to James. He's the one who went public without warning
> in
> > the middle of the meeting. You are 100% wrong that this is a decision
> > *against* the community. I know why I voted the way I did - and it has to
> > do with my strong belief in the values of this community and the
> > responsibilities of board members to uphold those values. If a board
> member
> > fails the community in such a serious way, tough decisions have to be
> made
> > about what to do.--Jimbo Wales
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jimbo_Wales> (talk
> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jimbo_Wales#top>) 20:57, 29
> > December 2015 (UTC)"
> >
> > Comment from Jimmy, both implicitly criticizing James Heilman for
> revealing
> > that he was ejected from the board and suggesting that James failed to
> > uphold the values of the community in a serious way. Later on Jimmy tries
> > to walk back the criticism as "merely stating a fact."
> >
> > James responded by pointing out that he was removed from the board and
> then
> > told to leave the room, at which point he posted to the mailing list. The
> > complaint that he published the decision while the meeting was ongoing is
> > silly, although I can certainly see why the remaining members would have
> > preferred to control the narrative themselves.
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 14:02:24 -0300
> From: Anna Torres <d...@wikimedia.org.ar>
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> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia Argentina Memorial 2015
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> Dear all,
>
> Even though is in spanish, please find in the following link the Anual
> Memorial 2015 <http://wikimedia.org.ar/memorial2015/> regarding WMAR
> programs and activities.
>
> In there, you can find activities' descripctions and results for our main
> programs and actions taken during 2015.
>
> Hope you all enjoy it!
>
> Hugs and happy new year!
>
>
> --
> Anna Torres Adell
> Directora Ejecutiva
> *A.C. Wikimedia Argentina*
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 09:51:13 -0800
> From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com>
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> Depending on what all we learn as this goes forward, some action items that
> may emerge from this situation as it seems to be evolving so far:
>
> (1) the board may need to work on its communication strategies
> (2) this may be an opportunity for another discussion about Board
> composition and structure, including the role of Jimmy
> (3) this situation may inform a review of the bylaws concerning how board
> members are appointed and removed, particularly community-elected members
> (4) this situation is an opportunity for a significant increase in the
> transparency of WMF Board activities. I still am of the view that far more
> of what happens at the WMF Board should be public and transparent. This
> includes how they handle allegations against one of their own. If
> government entities like city councils and national legislatures can do
> this, I think that the WMF Board should hold itself to at least that level
> of transparency. Yes these are uncomfortable discussions to have in public,
> but as we can see from how this situation is developing, handling them in
> private has its own downsides. I don't know how other affiliates work, but
> here in Cascadia Wikimedians there is very little that the Board does that
> can't be made public. I would hope that the WMF Board would hold itself to
> similarly high expectations for openness and transparency, even when it's
> uncomfortable. The controversial nature of information, by itself, is not a
> sufficient reason for keeping information private. So I hope that the WMF
> Board will consider new levels of openness about its deliberations.
> Something that I suggested awhile ago was live broadcasts of Board meetings
> (with a limited exception for executive sessions) and I still think that
> level of openness is appropriate for the Board of an open-source
> organization.
>
> It will be interesting to see what more we learn as this situation evolves.
>
> Pine
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 20:09:49 +0100
> From: Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
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> I think that your 'lessons' are quite premature. We still don't know the
> what, the why and the how. We don't know the context of everything that
> happened. It may very well be that the process as it is, worked perfectly.
> It may also be that it was disastrous.
>
> transparency and good communication don't necessarily go hand in hand with
> 'quick', as was pointed out by some.
>
> Some other points that you touch, may very well be good material for
> discussion, but not necessarily relevant to this specific event. The
> transparency of board deliberations and the role of board members in the
> board (not limited to jimmy) is /always/ good to reconsider, and keep an
> open mind for. A more fundamental reconsideration may be the (formal)
> membership of the Wikimedia Foundation. But, while this would have
> influenced the current situation, it is not necessarily related. They often
> say that incidents make bad policy.
>
> At the same time, please keep in mind that Cascadia Wikimedians are not
> quite comparable with the Wikimedia Foundation. The budget if three (if not
> more) orders of magnitude higher, and the involvement of staff this large
> also makes a different organisational structure.
>
> Lodewijk
>
> On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Depending on what all we learn as this goes forward, some action items
> that
> > may emerge from this situation as it seems to be evolving so far:
> >
> > (1) the board may need to work on its communication strategies
> > (2) this may be an opportunity for another discussion about Board
> > composition and structure, including the role of Jimmy
> > (3) this situation may inform a review of the bylaws concerning how board
> > members are appointed and removed, particularly community-elected members
> > (4) this situation is an opportunity for a significant increase in the
> > transparency of WMF Board activities. I still am of the view that far
> more
> > of what happens at the WMF Board should be public and transparent. This
> > includes how they handle allegations against one of their own. If
> > government entities like city councils and national legislatures can do
> > this, I think that the WMF Board should hold itself to at least that
> level
> > of transparency. Yes these are uncomfortable discussions to have in
> public,
> > but as we can see from how this situation is developing, handling them in
> > private has its own downsides. I don't know how other affiliates work,
> but
> > here in Cascadia Wikimedians there is very little that the Board does
> that
> > can't be made public. I would hope that the WMF Board would hold itself
> to
> > similarly high expectations for openness and transparency, even when it's
> > uncomfortable. The controversial nature of information, by itself, is
> not a
> > sufficient reason for keeping information private. So I hope that the WMF
> > Board will consider new levels of openness about its deliberations.
> > Something that I suggested awhile ago was live broadcasts of Board
> meetings
> > (with a limited exception for executive sessions) and I still think that
> > level of openness is appropriate for the Board of an open-source
> > organization.
> >
> > It will be interesting to see what more we learn as this situation
> evolves.
> >
> > Pine
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