John: I hope we can have an open discussion. (: I feel that NDAs may be
making bad situations worse. There are good reasons to keep some things
confidential, but I think that more openness and transparency would be
helpful in regards to the WMF board in particular.

Milos: thank you. Yesterday I wrote a long list of areas in which there are
problems and weaknesses throughout the Wikimedia universe. The length of
the list was so depressing that I decided to keep it to myself. In a way,
I'm glad that someone is thinking along similar lines. I'm about to depart
Wikimedia-l for several hours; I'll leave with these thoughts:

1. Lila is talking about a strategy update:
My confidence in WMF-led strategy processes is weak at this moment in time,
although I hope for the best. Perhaps we can all use this as an opportunity
to address Something. Perhaps parallel to this, we in the community should
have our own discussion about Something and what we would like for our own

2. WikiQuote of the day:

"The world is indeed full of peril,
and in it there are many dark places;
but still there is much that is fair,
and though in all lands love is now mingled with grief,
it grows perhaps the greater."

-- J. R. R. Tolkien, in "The Fellowship of the Ring"

To brighter days,


On Sun, Jan 3, 2016 at 12:56 AM, John Mark Vandenberg <>

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