On Tue, Jan 19, 2016 at 2:38 AM, Isaac David <isacdaa...@isacdaavid.info> wrote:
> Le lun. 18 janv. 2016 à 3:17, Andrea Zanni <zanni.andre...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:59 AM, David Goodman <dgge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>  Nor am I concerned that our information might be used by people who
>>> oppose
>>>  our
>>>  principles. We ask just the same of our contributors--that the
>>> information
>>>  they contribute may be used for ''any'' purpose.
>> My concern is when our CC-BY-SA (or CC0) user-generated information is not
>> shared-alike AND it is a cost for the movement (ie a cost in terms of
>> bandwidth and electricity).
>> If Google harvests our information, using massively the API we provide,
>> and
>> they just make it a silo for them to use (for the Knowledge Graph, for
>> example) and this hurts us, I'm wondering if
>> we can do something about it. There are only very few players who can take
>> all our information and use it as an internal asset, enriching it and NOT
>> sharing it.
>> I don't think in binary, so for me there is no contradiction to have a
>> CC-BY-SA content, but some caveat for big, big, big players.
>> I'm not saying (nobody is) that we have to shift to a NC license. Just
>> that  I don't want our movement to be hurt by multi-billion dollars
>> companies: I'm not an expert of the commons (I bet many people in this
>> list
>> are) so I'm genuinely interested in hearing opinions about this. Is such
>> thing as "tragedy of the digital commons"? Can Google (or Amazon or
>> Facebook) exploits us?
>> Now please tell me (gently, :-D) where is my mistake in this line of
>> thought.
>> Aubrey
> CC-BY-SA allows everyone (including big companies) to modify (for instance,
> to enrich)
> and not share-alike AS LONG AS their extended work is kept private. That
> means
> Facebook pages and Google infoboxes based on CC-BY-SA content ought to carry
> the CC-BY-SA license too, because they are distributed to an audience wider
> than the
> changes' copyright owners (usually the companies themselves).

By this logic, and it is reasonable but debatable, if a Google search
infobox should be CC-BY-SA, then Wikidata items that contain all the
same infobox values from a Wikipedia article should also be CC-BY-SA.

John Vandenberg

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