Why not insist that every piece of data added to wikidata is supported by a reliable source?
That's a genuine question. I don't know the answer. Saying, "Well, Wikipedia is unreliable, too" doesn't answer the question. You're all bright people, and I assume there is a good reason not to insist on reliable sourcing for all of Wikidata's claims. What is it, please? Anthony Cole On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 1:28 AM, Jane Darnell <jane...@gmail.com> wrote: > Actually I think Wikidata is sourced more thoroughly than any single > Wikipedia. Looking at the last chart in those stats, less than 10% of all > items have zero sitelinks, and we can't see in the stats whether 100% of > those have zero referenced statements, but I would assume that is not the > case, especially since items with zero sitelinks and zero internal Wikidata > links tend to be "cleaned up and deleted". At least one sitelink means the > item is coming from a Wikipedia, and therefore the Wikipedia article will > have references that could be used in the Wikidata item and just haven't > been added yet. Of all the items with zero or just one statement, I expect > a great deal of these to be linked to categories, disambiguation pages, or > lists, as these types of items generally only contain one statement. > > Also, we currently have no way to count unreferenced statements in > Wikipedia articles, but there are very few Wikipedia articles that have at > least one reference per sentence. So concluding that any single > unreferenced statement no matter how many other referenced statements there > are in the item brings an entire Wikidata item into the "untrustworthy > zone" is just silly. > > On Mon, Jan 25, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hoi, > > Maybe.. but not all Wikipedias are the same. It is verifiable that > > Wikipedia would easily benefit from Wikidata from Wikidata by replacing > the > > existing links and red links with functionality that uses Wikidata. > > > > It happens often that I work on content in Wikipedia and find an error > rate > > of 20%. When you check Wikidata for its quality I expect it to be much > > better than 90%. > > > > It is blooming obvious that Wikipedians only see fault elsewhere and are > > forgiving for the error in their own way. > > Thanks, > > GerardM > > > > On 25 January 2016 at 14:55, Andreas Kolbe <jayen...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 22, 2016 at 9:34 AM, Magnus Manske < > > > magnusman...@googlemail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > What you hear is "Wikidata is unreliable" (compared to the respective > > > > Wikipedia; proof, anyone? Please, show me proof; silence or anecdotes > > > don't > > > > count) > > > > > > > > > > > > Any non-trivial content you want to add to Wikipedia today has to > fulfil > > > one basic criterion: that the content be traceable to a professionally > > > published source. > > > > > > Most Wikidata content fails that criterion.[1] It's blooming obvious > that > > > Wikidata is "unreliable" according to Wikipedia's definition of a > > "reliable > > > source", isn't it?[2] > > > > > > [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/wikidata-todo/stats.php > > > [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:SPS > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
