Thanks, Ellie and Chris, this historical experience should be very helpful
for future discussions!

Best,
Pharos

On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Chris Schilling <cschill...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Hey folks,
>
> Ellie has put together a summarized budget including revenue and expenses
> from Wikimania 2014 in London[1] and Wikimania 2015[2], which I've gone
> ahead and posted to the summary pages of these conferences on meta.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
>
> [1] <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014>
> [2] <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015>
>
> On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 1:15 PM, Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Itzik writes:
> >
> > > If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if the
> > WMF and the local team will share the costs.
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Budget
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015/Budget
> > > Maybe I missed something, but it's strange that such discussion takes
> > place without a real budget breakdown.
> > > To summarize 2 huge event to "1$ million USD" does not make sense.
> >
> > Agreed 1million%.  It would be important to see a rough cost breakdown, &
> > compare that to the best-budgeted Wikimanias.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 9:52 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <polime...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > 2016-02-10 6:06 GMT+01:00 Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > FUDCons
> > >
> > > Also it is hard to compare Wikimanias with FUDCons as it is
> > > a) much  smaller (usually bo more than 200 attendees)
> > > b) divided by regions - for example in 2015 there were 3 FUDCons
> > > (Argentina, India, Spain) and 2 Flocks (NY and Kraków) -  so they are
> > > rather like our Iberecop or CEE meetings than the global conferences.
> > >
> >
> > Thanks.  Similar to regional events perhaps, not Wikimania.  Still worth
> > comparing budgets perhaps, if available.
> >
> > But I was wondering about the trend over time: whether extensive funding
> > during the RedHat days made the events less useful, in the years after
> that
> > funding was reduced.
> >
> >
> >
> > > And also Fedora developers have many potential sources of external
> > funding
> > > - mainly from IT companies which uses free software and want to apply
> for
> > > their specific needs and for whom they quite often work.
> > >
> >
> > True.  But attendees to GLAM or education conferences also tend to have
> > many potential sources of funding - mainly from archives or educational
> or
> > technical companies who curate knowledge or develop education tools. And
> we
> > have IT industry partners who are similarly willing to support
> Wikimanias.
> > Not entirely dissimilar.
> >
> >
> > > But anyway, Fedora offers scholarships for attendees, see:
> > >
> >
> > Yes, wiki conferences should as well - that part of conference funding is
> > important.  Even early Wikimanias with almost no WMF support had
> > significant scholarship pools.
> >
> > S
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