Thanks Anthony; it's really appreciated. I want to make clear that I'm not saying "don't disagree!" - of course people can disagree. Hell, we're Wikipedians. Even if nobody was disagreeing we'd disagree with ourselves ;).
On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 2:54 AM, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com> wrote: > I'm listening to this, and thank you all. I'll try to be less ... whatever > that is I'm being. I do know what you mean, and I'll tone it down. Oliver, > I had/have no intention of minimising the hurt felt by those involved. I > apologise if I gave that impression. But some of those hurt people have > been dishing out - en masse - a world of pain, themselves. I understand the > dynamic at play here. > > In my defence - though I know it's no justification - I'm deeply affronted > by what's been happening here and, especially, on WW. I see its provenance > - the almost inevitability of it, given a hands-off (read that as slow, > ineffectual, irresponsible, mostly stupid and arrogant) board. But still, > this has been just awful to watch, and the behaviour of some here and > elsewhere has been truly, truly trashy. > > I shall try to improve my game. > > PS: > > That's the first time I've ever made public a private email. Literally. > Ever. I assume it will be the last. That kind of thing, bullying people > into silence, quietly, off-list, is IMNSHO, poor behaviour, billinghurst. > > Anthony Cole > > > On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 3:09 PM, Benjamin Lees <emufarm...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Someone complained to you off-list about the amount you're posting to >> the list. You immediately forwarded his email to the list. Is this >> the best approach? >> >> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 12:13 AM, Anthony Cole <ahcole...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > I thought I was bringing a sorely under-represented perspective to the ED >> > discussion on this list and wasn't aware I'd said or done anything >> > inappropriate here. >> >> Well, Oliver Keyes said, 3 days ago: >> >> > Speaking as both a volunteer and staff, Anthony, I have found your >> > attitude in this conversation and others on the subject to be deeply >> > unproductive. It would be good if you spent more time asking questions >> > and less time dismissing people's concerns. >> >> >> For my part, I think it's inappropriate to, for example, take >> someone's statement: "I restrained from expressing publicly any issues >> I might have with your own performance; I would love you to not spread >> covert allegations on my performace and professional attitude" and >> proceed to "it is used as proof she's "literally Hitler"." My >> guidance would be to think carefully about the way you're responding >> to others and whether you would like to be responded to in that way. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>