Lodewijk, this is a very valid point, thanks. My understanding is that this process done in private has lost some of its credibility with the staff and the community, and thus I would like to get some understanding on how we can do that same process in the open, without offending anyone. In the wiki world, I think most of the time people have publicly nominated candidates for various roles, and that has not been a concern. Of course the nick names provide some degree of anonymity, so this might not be exactly the same.
On Feb 27, 2016 01:57, "Lodewijk" <[email protected]> wrote: > While I love public discussions, I must say I always feel a bit awkward to > discuss people in public, unless there is no other choice. > > To discuss people without them agreeing to it, may even be considered rude > by some. You're throwing up names, which can realistically only lead to > people supporting it, because if you would be against it, it would possibly > be a slap in the face of someone you like. > > If you really see a serious potential candidate, why not send it to the > board? or, once a public call is being made, point those people to it. > > Lodewijk > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 11:31 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > > For the inside, I would think Yana W would be a good candidate, but as > Raul > > Veede suggested on FB, it would be bad to loose her expertise in her > > current role. > > > > Dan, I think you are right that we are not yet ready to have a drop-in > > replacement simply because we should figure out what went wrong first. > > Possibly we shouldn't even have an ED, but rather have a flatter > > community-driven committee that allocates funds, and projects getting > > resources from it. And this committee would, in affect, be the > > direction-determining force. > > > > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 1:23 AM, Oliver Keyes <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > I'm agreed with Dan and Nathan (well, Nathan's implied point) both. > > > > > > Right now we need stability. I'd much prefer an interim ED appointed > > > from inside the organisation or movement, ideally someone who has been > > > watching what's been going on. And then time for healing and > > > reflection in that space of stability that lets us make a better > > > decision. > > > > > > I have no particular opinions on Lessig - or on Creative Commons - > > > except to note that the organisational leaders are the people whose > > > opinions on trauma around reorganisations least matter, insofar as, > > > structurally, they are both the people least likely to be messed over > > > by them and the people most detached from any swirling mass of feeling > > > that exists in the employee base. I'd be interested instead in hearing > > > from current or former employees (I know a couple and they are not as > > > positive, but it's a small sample size) to make any evaluation more > > > informed. > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 4:59 PM, Dan Andreescu < > [email protected] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > I met him, he's amazingly focused and radical, I appreciate his brand > > of > > > intellect very much. But I think suggesting candidates for the ED > > position > > > at this time is jumping two steps ahead of where we are. > > > > > > > > We just screwed up. We were all dragged through months of an awkward > > > collapse of our leadership and organizational structure. Before we > start > > > piling the rubble of this collapse back up into the same exact shape > > with a > > > different keystone, let's take a breath and think. > > > > > > > > First we should make sure we understand what, more or less, failed. > It > > > was not just Lila. Second, we should talk about what options we have > and > > > what criteria we should use to evaluate those options. > > > > > > > > We can be patient. We have reaffirmed our respect for each other and > we > > > trust each other enough to share ideas, emotions, and proposals. This > is > > > our foundation, and it hasn't collapsed. > > > > > > > > Original Message > > > > From: Yuri Astrakhan > > > > Sent: Friday, February 26, 2016 16:47 > > > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > > Reply To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > > > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Lawrence Lessig for ... WMF > > > > > > > > I would like to continue the discussion of who, in an ideal case, > would > > > be > > > > a good fit for the ED position. This person has to fit culturally, > > share > > > > movement's values, and be a trusted figure in the time of rebuilding. > > > > > > > > Lawrence Lessig seems to have a very strong support in the community, > > and > > > > even attempted to run (unsuccessfully) a large organization called > > United > > > > States. > > > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
