> Anne, I have mentioned several times in the past few days here on this list > Sue Gardner's 2008 email suggesting that the WMF enter into an "umbrella > relationship/agreement" or "business deal" with Google. In case you missed > it, here is the link again: > > http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/sandberg.pdf > > Scroll to the very end of the document to see the email in question. I am > still interested in learning what the results of that effort were.
Nothing other than establishing some mutual points of contact, as far as I know. Back in 2008, Sue and I reached out -- as WMF just had relocated to the Bay Area -- to major tech companies to introduce ourselves, with the help of Jimmy and some of our early supporters. We made a pitch for donations, and in-kind hardware support where appropriate. By and large corporate support didn't go very far, because usually folks wanted PR benefits at a level we couldn't give them. Some individual major donors did give their support, as noted on the benefactors page. Incidentally, this was also the year in which Google launched Knol, which was sort of their version of the Knowledge Engine (official line: "We have no intent of competing with Wikipedia" -> media reports: "Google launches Wikipedia killer"). It was later converted to a WordPress blog. We did continue to cultivate the relationship with Google and continued to ask for support, and eventually Google made a one-time $2M donation.  As you know, Google also was one of the early supporters of Wikidata , and Sergey Brin's family foundation has also given to WMF in the past.  This was all unambiguously good for Wikimedia, and is all public knowledge. Beyond those donations, we've generally had an informal relationship with changing points of contact over the years. WMF has given tech talks at Google, for example, or our point of contact might help us get some passes for the I/O conference. Part of the mandate of the partnerships hire WMF made last year was to bring more of a systematic approach to these relationships, and as the org stabilizes it might be good to seek a broad conversation as to what that ideally should look like in terms of transparency, lines we shall not cross, etc. Generally speaking, when WMF did enter into significant business relationships, these are a matter of the public record in press releases and such: Yahoo back in 2005, Kaltura, PediaPress, Orange, the various WP Zero operators, some data center partners, etc. The Apple dictionary integration Brion mentions in  is an exception to the rule; contrary to Brion's recollection it actually predates even Sue Gardner and, as far as I know, was not announced at the time. Erik  https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Wikimedia_Foundation_announces_$2_million_grant_from_Google  https://www.wikimedia.de/wiki/Pressemitteilungen/PM_3_12_Wikidata_EN  https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Press_releases/Brin_Wojcicki_Foundation_Announces_$500,000_Grant_to_Wikimedia  https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-February/082741.html _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>