Derek, et al I was not attacking Katy in any way.
I have now read Maggie's response (which I thank her for making), and whilst from that response it may appear Katy is the best person for the job, I still question what this "new, open approach" to recruitment at the WMF entails... Internal promotions with no advertizing and no interviews, etc indicates to me there is no "new, open approach" to recruitment at the WMF. It certainly would appear that this "new, open approach" that was touted by Lila has yet to filter down to the wider WMF structures from the ED's office, or from Boryana Dineva's office. Or were we being sold buzz words with no substance? It is, of course, the WMF's right to do what it wants in terms of recruiting and promotions but for all too long the WMF has been seen to be an organization which favors insiders for recruitment needs. It would have been good to see Katy sit in this position on a temporary basis whilst a full open recruitment process was carried out...Wikimedia is NOT the only community-driven organization out there, and for such an important position as "Director" the WMF does itself a disservice not to advertize for as many suitable applicants at possible. Is Katy a good recommendation for the job as Director of Community Resources? Sure. Is she the best person for the job? Only a fully transparent approach to recruitment could possibly ascertain that. It would still be great to get some words from WMF recruitment, or whatever fanciful name they call themselves these days, on such issues. Is Boryana Dineva back from leave yet? Perhaps she could address this "new, open approach" to recruitment for us? Kind regards, Ruslan Takayev On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 10:31 PM, Derek V.Giroulle < derekvgirou...@wikimedia.be> wrote: > Asaf , > > First of all, by your definition of censorship then I must consider that > my reaction to > ruslanś message was censored, what makes ruslanś message immune for > censorship that > my reaction doesn't qualify for ? > so I reduced my criticism to the quote you made in the message below > > Some of the _questions_ ruslan asked certainly were legitimate, also by my > standards > but i was not talking about his _questions_ ... i was criticizing some of > his "_statements_" > and "_remarks_", the implied comments had personal implications and thus > were directed > at Katy and that was what I qualified as disrespectful of a valuable > person. > Ruslanś _remarks_ were imho not questioning the WMF decisions or the > selection/decision proces, > he was attacking the outcome ... I read that in Maggieś response also > > Derek > > > On 27-02-16 21:37, Asaf Bartov wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Derek V.Giroulle < >> derekvgirou...@wikimedia.be> wrote: >> >> I'm very sorry that Ruslan Takayev's message got through the moderation >>> IMHO his statement and remarks are not respectful >>> >>> I strongly disagree, Derek. That would have been outright censorship. >> Ruslan asked a perfectly legitimate and useful question; Maggie thought so >> too, and provided a clear and informative response, which has the added >> benefit of answering it for other people who may have had the same >> question >> as Ruslan but didn't express it. >> >> Questioning WMF decisions, particularly with reference to our principles >> or >> to previous stated positions, is certainly appropriate and legitimate, and >> does not constitute disrespect. >> >> A. >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > -- > Kind regards, > *Derek V. Giroulle* > Wikimedia Belgium vzw. > Treasurer > Troonstraat 51 Rue du Trône, BE-1050 Brussels > M: derekvgirou...@wikimedia.be > T: +32 494 134134 > F: +32 3666 2700 > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>