Hoi,
I think you have missed the point badly.

Wikiwand is not about the communities and their pride. It is about what the
Wikimedia Foundation stands for. It is sharing the sum of all knowledge.
When we do a piss poor job and let Wikiwand steal the cake we have our
priorities fatally wrong.

The notion that "people just want the content no matter how great of awful
the skin is" is awful. Really,

The notion that the only thing we are there for is to disseminate it is
plain awful because it reads as if we should give up and hand it all over
to Wikiwand. If that is your opinion why have people concentrate on our
User Interface? You must be kidding.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 31 March 2016 at 20:39, Keegan Peterzell <keegan.w...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Mar 31, 2016 at 12:56 PM, Adam Wight <awi...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > To second what others have said, I personally love the idea that a
> reading
> > interface should include less editor clutter, until it is requested.
> > There's a task for this, if anyone would like to help push that
> > investigation forward:
> >     https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T106439
>
>
> ​Perhaps that would be better flipped: if you want a cleaner interface, one
> is available, but we intentionally want/need/must keep "editor clutter" out
> front. Communities are quite proud of that so-called clutter and actively
> want to put it in front of people. The clutter got people in and built our
> projects, removing it undoubtedly means less editors. Generally speaking,
> everyone is a reader and an editor is a reader that clicks edit. They're
> not, and should not be, distinct classes of users.
>
> The fact of the matter is that people just want the content, no matter how
> great or awful the skin is, and they will go where ever makes it easiest to
> get it. This doesn't mean that we have to be the destination to read the
> content, that's not in our mission statement. We're to disseminate it.
>
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