Hi Joseph, No, because board members' first duties are to WMF, not to the community or the affiliates.
Pine On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:43 AM, Joseph Seddon <jsed...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Does Dariusz as a community selected board member not count? > > Seddon > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 11:26 AM, Tanweer Morshed <wiki.tanw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hi everyone, > > > > I agree with Pine on his 3rd proposal. Including a representative from > the > > affiliates and another from the community into the search steering group > > should help including the input from wider Wikimedia community. This > would > > be positive both for the search process and the recruitment. > > > > > > Regards, > > Tanweer > > > > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 4:12 PM, Oliver Keyes <ironho...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > So you're suggesting we don't find an ED for the biggest org in the > > > movement because there's a thread on a mailing list about spinning bits > > of > > > it off? > > > > > > I think hiring an ED can be done safely. Spinning elements off the WMF > is > > > something that has already been done, repeatedly, be it duties (the > FDC, > > > ish) or departments (see the WikiEd Foundation). In neither case did > > senior > > > leadership suddenly find they had nothing to do. > > > > > > I guarantee that finding three executive directors is not an easier > task > > > than finding one, however you split the duties. > > > > > > On Monday, 18 April 2016, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Lisa, > > > > > > > > Good to hear. Thanks. > > > > > > > > I'm aware that my first question might feel like it's a lot for the > > Board > > > > to digest while it's got so many other urgent issues. However, it > seems > > > to > > > > me that any ED candidate would want to know if spinoffs or a breakup > > are > > > > under consideration, and that if these are likely or planned then the > > > > selection process will need to take theses issues into account when > > > trying > > > > to find a candidate with optimal fit. Also impacting the search > process > > > is > > > > that it might be easier to find two or three EDs for two or three > > > > separate, smaller, and more focused orgs than to try to find a single > > ED > > > > who can handle the wide and deep complexity of WMF in its current > > form. I > > > > have faith in Katherine as an interim ED and perhaps even as the > > ultimate > > > > selection, and I think that Katherine's abilities will provide us all > > > some > > > > time and breathing room to think through questions about possible > > > spinoffs > > > > and/or breakup. So, we can take some time to think carefully about > the > > > > spinoff/breakup issue before proceeding further with selecting an ED > > for > > > an > > > > organization that is currently very complex and is a significant > > systemic > > > > risk in the Wikimedia ecosystem. > > > > > > > > Pine > > > > On Apr 17, 2016 18:51, "Lisa Gruwell" <lgruw...@wikimedia.org > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Pine- > > > > > > > > > > I can answer your second question for you. We are moving forward > > with > > > > > hiring the CTO, VP of HR, and VP of Community (in that order) > during > > > the > > > > > interim. > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > Lisa > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2016 at 1:52 PM, Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Alice, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for moving forward with this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Questions: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. One of the characteristics listed is "Experience in leading an > > > > > > organization as ED or CEO, very preferably an NGO or F/L/OSS > > > > > > (Free/Libre/Open Source Software) organization, with 250 people > or > > > > more." > > > > > > But recent discussions have included the possibility of spinning > > off > > > > > > components of WMF and/or a breakup of the WMF organization, > partly > > > as a > > > > > way > > > > > > to mitigate the systemic risk from a dysfunctional or > > underperforming > > > > > WMF. > > > > > > So, should we be looking for an ED with the expectation that he > or > > > she > > > > > will > > > > > > manage an organization with 250+ employees, or should we look for > > > > someone > > > > > > who has experience with spinoffs and/or breakups? > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. Will the hiring for execs for HR, Tech, and Community wait > until > > > > after > > > > > > the new ED is selected, or will those recruiting processes happen > > > > > > independent of the ED hiring process? > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. For the search steering group. would you consider adding a > > > > > > representative elected from the affiliates, and a representative > > > > elected > > > > > > from the community, who are not WMF board members and can > therefore > > > be > > > > > > responsive to the affiliate and community constituencies without > > > > > potential > > > > > > conflict with WMF interests? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > Pine > > > > > > > > > > > > Pine > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2016 11:37, "Alice Wiegand" <awieg...@wikimedia.org > > > > <javascript:;>> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Finding the next Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director is a > > clear > > > > > > > priority for the Board. To address this challenge, the Board > has > > > > > created > > > > > > a > > > > > > > steering group tasked with crafting the actual job description, > > > > > planning > > > > > > > and conducting the search, and finding ways to include > community > > > > > > > perspectives. This steering group will be regularly consulting > > with > > > > the > > > > > > > Board throughout the search process. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please see the ED transition team page on meta [1] to find more > > > > > > information > > > > > > > about the steering group, and get the latest updates. We have > > also > > > > > > included > > > > > > > three questions on the participation page to help us start > > forming > > > a > > > > > > better > > > > > > > understanding of the community’s various opinions and > > expectations. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Executive_Director_Transition_Team/2016 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Alice Wiegand > > > > > > > Board of Trustees > > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Support Free Knowledge: > > > https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Donate > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > <javascript:;> > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org <javascript:;> > > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Regards, > > Tanweer > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > -- > Seddon > > *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* > *Wikimedia Foundation* > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>