For comparison: http://en.citizendium.org/wiki/Special:Statistics

the twitter version: "Wikinews is half as active as Citizendium."


- d.



On 1 May 2016 at 17:45, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 10:38 PM, Tilman Bayer <tba...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>> On Fri, Apr 22, 2016 at 12:42 PM, rupert THURNER <rupert.thur...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> hi jimmy,
>>>
>>> i asked on the facebook group wikipeda weekly if joe/ed could publish
>>> an upcoming blog post on wikinews. joe sutherland mentioned ".. I
>>> simply cannot get my head around its attitude to news coverage". which
>>> i find frightening. an editor for 10 years, tens of thousands
>>> contributions, thousands of pages created, degree in journalism,
>>> dissertation about news on wikipedia, administrator.[1]
>>>
>>> jimmy, as wikinews refers an old mail of you from 2003 as the holy
>>> grail of NPOV, could you please clarify once and for all that your
>>> NPOV statemant you sent to wikien-l was valid for wikipedia. and not
>>> for wikisource, wikiquote, wikinews. best on the wikinews talk page
>>> concerning NPOV [2][4]. i understand of course that certain publishing
>>> standards might apply - but NPOV, and "sourced" in the sense of
>>> published somewhere else cannot be amongst them [3].
>>>
>>> just as a note, i hate that the blog [5] opens 20 times slower than
>>> wikinews on my mobile phone,
>>
>> The blog is hosted by Automattic (known for Wordpress.com) in the same
>> environment as high traffic sites like time.com or fivethirtyeight.com.
>> You can file technical issues on Phabricator:
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/project/view/328/ or contact the blog
>> team (https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Blog/Guidelines ).
>>
>> that it is not in different languages,
>>>
>> It does support multilingual posts, e.g.
>> https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/18/wikimedia-server-switch/ is available
>> in 23 languages.
>
> asaf and others were so kind to point me to the statistics of
> wikinews, only SIX persons contributing. this a nice private wiki now
> - nobody would notice if it is set read only :)
> https://stats.wikimedia.org/wikinews/EN/SummaryEN.htm
>
> still i think it benefits the movements software if you as WMF
> communications team eat our own dogfood and publish on mediawiki.
> wikinews might fit nicely as its target of publishing original texts
> is closest - but anyway wiknews would need a policy change and the
> bureaucrat(s) changed to allow such kinds of texts. if this policy
> change revives its contributor base good. if not i'd agree with asaf
> and others to just let it formally die, as it is already de facto
> dead.
>
>>> that i do not have the "usual mediawiki features". i hate that
>>> signpost [7] cannot be read on mobiles because of formatting. i hate
>>> the glam newsletter [6] for the same reason, despite beeig again on a
>>> different wiki, no "read in different languages". which is the main
>>> reason i write this mail ... and asked joe why not using wikinews. and
>>> i hate that wikinews does not use mediawiki features to properly
>>> classify what quality an article has, e.g. "blog", "npov", etc.
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Foxj&project=en.wikipedia.org
>>> [2]
>>> https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews_talk:Neutral_point_of_view#raphael_honigstein_and_outreach_blog_on_wikinews.3F
>>> [3] https://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Wikinews:Pillars_of_Wikinews_writing
>>> [4]
>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2003-November/008096.html
>>> [5] blog:
>>> http://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/22/ted-wikimedia-collaboration/
>>> [6] glam newletter: https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/GLAM/Newsletter
>>> [7] signpost: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost
>
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