And hiring from outside may be a cause of bad management
Cheers,
Peter

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Gerard Meijssen
Sent: Monday, 20 June 2016 3:25 PM
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Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 147, Issue 43

Hoi,
Who says the WMF is in trouble.. A not so fine patch sure, but in trouble..
that is too much.
Thanks,
      GerardM

On 20 June 2016 at 14:58, Stephen Philbrick <stephen.w.philbr...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I would urge caution at reading too much into the A.T.Kearney study. 
> It is quite plausible that companies in trouble may decide they need a 
> turn-around specialist, almost certainly an outsider. While some will 
> succeed, companies in trouble are almost certainly going to 
> underperform those that were not in trouble. Thus, hiring a homegrown 
> CEO may be a result of good management, not a cause.
> Sphilbrick
>
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> >    1. Re: Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts
> >       right now (Peter Southwood)
> >    2. somja (Gerard Meijssen)
> >    3. Re: Invitation to “Engaging local Wikipedians” and
> >       “German Wikipedia” Workshop at Wikimania (Tanweer Morshed)
> >    4. Recognition of Kentucky Wikimedians (Carlos M. Colina)
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> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:56:30 +0200
> > From: "Peter Southwood" <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net>
> > To: "'Wikimedia Mailing List'" <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED
> >         search  starts right now
> > Message-ID: <01f701d1ca43$27ab1c80$77015580$@telkomsa.net>
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> > The Kearney report rings true for me.
> > Cheers,
> > Peter
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> > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] 
> > On Behalf Of rupert THURNER
> > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2016 11:47 PM
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED 
> > search starts right now
> >
> > hi,
> >
> > 2011 A T Kearney published a study saying that hiring a homegrown 
> > CEO let a company outperform other companies. also price waterhouse 
> > coopers Strategy& and RHR international come to similar conclusions:
> > *
> >
> >
> https://www.atkearney.com/documents/10192/529727/Home-Grown_CEO.pdf/bb
> ba713e-1a54-421f-81f9-4299faad42aa
> > * http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/17975.html
> > *
> >
> >
> http://www.rhrinternational.com/sites/default/files/V25N1-CEO-Successi
> on-Makin_1.pdf
> > * (de)
> >
> >
> http://www.finews.ch/themen/karriere/23186-korn-ferry-stefan-steger-ce
> o-nachfolge-wechsel-pwc-strategy?xing_share=news
> > hiring an outsider CEO has the following effects:
> > * higher compensation
> > * greater risk profile
> > * wrong expectations about business area and its specifics
> >
> > best
> > rupert
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 1:56 PM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you! Hopefully there will be a good range of viewpoints!
> > >
> > > I look forward to reading a summary of the feedback!
> > >
> > > Fae
> > >
> > > On 16 June 2016 at 11:25, Alice Wiegand <awieg...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
> > > > Update: The survey is still open!
> > > > In order to hear from more people, the search team decided to 
> > > > hold the ED search survey [1] open until Friday, June 17. If you 
> > > > haven’t already, please take a few minutes to fill it out before then.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you for your participation!
> > > >
> > > > [1] - ED Search Survey:
> > > > https://wikimedia.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_5hVS2mJTcJNCxBX
> > > >
> > > > Alice.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:58 AM, Nikola Kalchev <
> > > nikola.kalc...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> As a patroller on my homewiki I can say that 15 of the 50 most 
> > > >> active editors according to stats.wikimedia.org would be 
> > > >> capable of answering
> > > the
> > > >> questions in one of the ten languages. Those are the people who
> > > translate
> > > >> articles from the ten languages of the survey (13 from English, 
> > > >> 2 from Russian). Ask a few more patrollers from other 
> > > >> communities, multiply by
> > > the
> > > >> number of very active editors on those wikis and divide by the 
> > > >> number of asked patrollers :). It is not impossible to get a 
> > > >> rough
> > estimate.
> > > >>
> > > >> Best regards,
> > > >> User:Lord Bumbury / Nikola Kalchev Wikimedians of Bulgaria, a 
> > > >> Wikimedia CEE Spring international organiser
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 11:45 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak 
> > > >> <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Nikola Kalchev <
> > > nikola.kalc...@gmail.com
> > > >> >
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Dariusz, thank you for your clarification. I understand that
> > > >> translations
> > > >> >> take time.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Would you please elaborate on the assumption that the most 
> > > >> >> important principle of the ED search committee was speed and 
> > > >> >> not,
> > e.g.
> > > >> participation
> > > >> >> of a larger part of the community? What would the bad 
> > > >> >> effects of a 2
> > > >> months
> > > >> >> longer search on the WMF be?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > The assumption is that any organization under an interim 
> > > >> > leader is basically frozen. An interim leader is unlikely to 
> > > >> > make any
> > change.
> > > Also,
> > > >> > one of the gripes of the past was a long (way over a year) 
> > > >> > process of
> > > ED
> > > >> > searching. The ED search team wants to avoid repeating this.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I fear that user groups will be underrepresented again 
> > > >> >> (another
> > > notable
> > > >> >> example is the number of representatives at the WMCON with 
> > > >> >> chapters
> > > >> having
> > > >> >> up to four participants and user groups exactly one). There 
> > > >> >> are
> > > >> >> 59
> > > user
> > > >> >> groups and (as well as I could count) only 10 of them will 
> > > >> >> be able to participate at the survey in their own language. 
> > > >> >> Why was the opinion
> > > of
> > > >> 49
> > > >> >> user groups considered less worth that a delay of two months?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I think the main assumption may have been that there will be
> > > decreasing
> > > >> > differences - that is, the differences between the views 
> > > >> > expressed in
> > > the
> > > >> > 10 major languages will not be big in general. Of course, we 
> > > >> > will see whether there are significant differences within these 10.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:16 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter 
> > > >> > <pute...@mccme.ru
> > > >
> > > >> >  wrote:
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Whereas I fully understand and partially share the 
> > > >> >> sentiment, may I please repeat the question I asked on this 
> > > >> >> list in relation to a
> > > similar
> > > >> >> topic some time ago. Could we estimate a number of active 
> > > >> >> community
> > > >> members
> > > >> >> (whom we would reasonably expect to participate in the 
> > > >> >> survey) who do
> > > >> not
> > > >> >> speak any of the languages to which the survey was 
> > > >> >> translated, to the
> > > >> point
> > > >> >> that their ability to fill in the survey would depend on the
> > others?
> > > If
> > > >> >> this is a considerable number, or if it is less significant 
> > > >> >> but considerably compromises on the representation, which 
> > > >> >> languages do
> > > these
> > > >> >> community members speak?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> > Yaroslav's question is a good one - I don't know from the top 
> > > >> > of my
> > > head
> > > >> > how to estimate this easily. However, let me repeat: we are 
> > > >> > asking
> > > >> general
> > > >> > questions, and the results are not binding. It is not an 
> > > >> > issue of representation. I doubt if there will be huge 
> > > >> > cultural differences to
> > > the
> > > >> > extent that the questionnaire would bring different results 
> > > >> > if 10 more languages were added, mainly because I think that 
> > > >> > wiki-world is quite hermetic and has a culture of its own.
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > cheers,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > dj
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
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> > Date: Sun, 19 Jun 2016 23:14:16 +0200
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> > To: Amna Haji Younus <amnahajiyou...@gmail.com>,  Wikimedia Mailing
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> > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 11:41:41 +0600
> > From: Tanweer Morshed <wiki.tanw...@gmail.com>
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Invitation to “Engaging local
> >         Wikipedians” and “German Wikipedia” Workshop at Wikimania
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> > Hi Martin,
> >
> > Thanks for sharing the news. I am keen to participate at the 
> > “Engaging local Wikipedians” workshop. Would you please ensure me 
> > whether I can
> share
> > some of the learning we (as a community in Bangladesh) have attained 
> > regarding engaging the diverse local Wikipedians?
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tanweer
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 18, 2016 at 3:50 AM, Martin Rulsch <
> martin.rul...@wikimedia.de
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Wikimaniacs!
> > >
> > > Wikimania is just around the corner and many people looking 
> > > forward to
> > the
> > > wide range of topics. Following the general idea of sharing 
> > > knowledge
> > about
> > > best practices, the Volunteer Support Department of Wikimedia
> Deutschland
> > > warmly invites you to the pre-conference workshops “Engaging local 
> > > Wikipedians” and “German Wikipedia”.
> > >
> > > *“Engaging local Wikipedians” workshop*
> > >
> > > The German Chapter supports several groups with the installation,
> > funding,
> > > and support of local spaces where community members can sozialize,
> write
> > > articles, plan projects, share knowledge, start cooperations, 
> > > teach new editors, and so one. These are places where Wikipedians have a 
> > > face.
> > >
> > > Several local groups will hold lightning talks about their activities.
> > > Further, a study by Wikimedia Deutschland on the local spaces will 
> > > be presented. Nevertheless, getting local Wikipedians together 
> > > does not
> only
> > > work in actual rooms but in several other ways, fitting to the
> respective
> > > needs of the communities and general conditions. One solution for
> example
> > > is the Kumusha Bus that educates several communities in Africa 
> > > about
> the
> > > Open Movement. Of course, organizing student groups for Wikipedia 
> > > in several cities is another one.
> > >
> > > We warmly invite you to share your experiences in this workshop.
> Learning
> > > from each other is the main goal of this workshop.
> > >
> > > Basic information for “Engaging local Wikipedians” workshop:
> > >
> > >    - Date: Thursday, 23 June
> > >    - Time: 9.30–13.00
> > >    - Place: Villa Rogo (20 min away from the center)
> > >    - Find more information on
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Workshop:_Engaging_local_Wiki
> pedians
> > >
> > > *“German Wikipedia” workshop*
> > >
> > > The community of the German-language Wikipedia is one of the most
> active
> > > ones in the Wikiverse. Several volunteers will attend Wikimania 
> > > this
> year
> > > and prepared presentations on a broad variety of topics they are
> > interested
> > > in, from a presentation of the Young Wikipedians group to a 
> > > photography workshop focused on flashes.
> > >
> > > They warmly invite you into the German house, the Villa Rogo, to 
> > > the “German Wikipedia” workshop that follows the previous 
> > > “Engaging local Wikipedians” workshop (we plan to serve Italian 
> > > pasta for you in our kitchen ;-)).
> > >
> > > If you ever wanted to know what the German community is doing, or 
> > > when
> > you
> > > are curious what their affairs of the heart are, join this 
> > > workshop and
> > be
> > > excited!
> > >
> > > Basic information for “German Wikipedia” workshop:
> > >
> > >    - Date: Thursday, 23 June
> > >    - Time: 14.00–18.00
> > >    - Place: Villa Rogo (20 min away from the center)
> > >    - Find more information on
> > >    
> > > https://wikimania2016.wikimedia.org/wiki/Workshop:_German_Wikipedi
> > > a
> > >
> > > If you have any question, please don't hesitate to contact me.
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Martin
> > >
> > > --
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> > Date: Mon, 20 Jun 2016 10:02:35 +0300
> > From: "Carlos M. Colina" <ma...@wikimedia.org.ve>
> > To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Kentucky Wikimedians
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> > Dear all,
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> > It is my pleasure to announce the recognition of a new Wikimedia 
> > User Group in the United States: Kentucky Wikimedians [1]
> >
> > Their efforts are focused on providing support to those in Kentucky 
> > who are interested in creating and expanding content in the 
> > different Wikimedia projects. They have already organized some 
> > meetups and plan to expand their activities in the state.
> >
> > Welcome!
> >
> > 1: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Kentucky_Wikimedians_User_Group
> >
> >
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> > waya junain."
> > Carlos M. Colina
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> > Foundation Affiliations Committee
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> > Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons, Wikimedia Incubator, Wiktionary y 
> > otros proyectos relacionados son marcas registradas usadas bajo 
> > permiso expreso de su titular, la Fundación Wikimedia, Inc., una 
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> >
> > Asociación Civil Wikimedia Venezuela (Wikimedia Venezuela) | RIF.:
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