I suggest that we just drop the Trump tangent from the discussion, as
it is a distraction.

Newyorkbrad

On 6/28/16, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Moving this issue out of the thread about India, as it doesn't belong to it.
>
> It seems that my explanation of explanation was not quite useful. Just
> the last paragraph was a satire and I've got complaint that
> satirically playing with the racist stereotypes could seem racist.
> That was the target of the explanation of explanation.
>
> However, your question that it's still not clear to you why I am
> talking about Trump supporters is much more important.
>
> If we tend to be an inclusive movement, we should do our best to
> include people from as much of society as we are able to do.
>
> The first and the most obvious problem in Wikimedia community was
> striking lack of women. And, for a long time we have the programs
> which promote inclusion of women in our movement.
>
> Then we have the issue of minorities. Depending on the country, those
> processes started sooner or later.
>
> However, as we articulated Wikimedia movement as a progressive one, we
> are slowly but surely losing large portions of our societies.
>
> The metaphor for that portion is "a Trump voter", but those people
> exist in every society. They do not vote for Trump; they could be even
> a progressive force in their society; but, as with Trump supporter,
> they've been ostracized from the dominant part of the society as less
> worthy.
>
> I've said those parts of the societies are our new underrepresented
> groups. In United States it's about middle class people scared of
> those who are socially in worse (immigrants) and better position
> (among others, us) than themselves, voting for Trump. In Austria, it's
> about working class people scared of those in worse and better
> position than themselves, voting for FPO. And so on.
>
> And if you are asking me why we should take care about their
> incorporation, I will tell you that I was getting quite similar
> questions when I raised the problem of lack of participation of women
> in Wikimedia movement. It's the wider social role of our movement.
>
> On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 3:43 PM, Peter Southwood
> <peter.southw...@telkomsa.net> wrote:
>> Still not clear. Why?
>>
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>> On Jun 28, 2016 09:58, "Milos Rancic" <mill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> (Hint for American
>>> Wikimedians: Trump supporters are your next target for positive
>>> discrimination.)
>>
>> It seems I have to clarify this sentence.
>>
>> I didn't say Trump, I didn't say Cruz, I didn't say Cruz supporters, I
>> said Trump supporters.
>>
>> I have in mind very specific population, genuinely scared by the
>> privileged Mexican illegal immigrants, working lazy for the American
>> agricultural industry for $5/h or less and supported by Bay Area hipsters
>> and Jewish lobby.
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