Sorry to post twice -- I spoke too soon with "single greatest opportunity."
An acknowledgment of community members' positive role in addressing the
Superprotect debacle is another important opportunity that should not be
missed.

-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]


On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 12:37 PM, Pete Forsyth <petefors...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Christophe and Pine,
>
> I am glad this loop is getting closed. I agree very much with Pine that
> eliminating the Founder's Seat as a (virtually) guaranteed position is
> something that has been suggested by a great many informed people who care
> about the movement, in a number of venues, and until now (as far as I'm
> aware) has not been acknowledged. I'm glad to know that the governance
> review will give it consideration. Wikimedia has recently been doing many
> good things to address the challenges of the last year or two, but this
> issue remains -- in my mind -- the single most significant opportunity to
> get things on track.
>
> One thing comes to mind, which may also be appropriate to the review:
> perhaps it would be good to have a more structured way of making
> suggestions to the Board. For tech issues, we have Phabricator; something
> along those lines might be worthwhile, as it creates a way to assess how
> many people are interested in a certain issue, and also whether and how it
> has been seen/acknowledged/is being addressed.
>
> -Pete
> [[User:Peteforsyth]]
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:39 PM, Christophe Henner <chen...@wikimedia.org
> > wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> The question is not on the table right now.
>>
>> We're working to perform a gouvernance audit, board composition will be
>> part of it.
>>
>> Now, my personal opinion is it's neither urgent nor critical. And on top
>> of
>> that I'm not sure it would be a good idea.
>>
>> All that being said, I'm sure it will come up during the gouvernance
>> review.
>>
>> And yes I missed it, sorry. Gérard, no need for such email, just, as Pine
>> did, reask the question :)
>>
>> Have a nice day
>>
>> Le 26 juil. 2016 6:54 AM, "Pine W" <wiki.p...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> > Hi BGC,
>> >
>> > I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been
>> > overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether the
>> > Founder's seat will become an elected seat in the forseeable future?
>> >
>> > Pine
>> >
>> > On Jul 20, 2016 21:20, "Pine W" <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thanks Daruisz and all who worked on this.
>> > >
>> > > Looking at the bigger picture, the tone and pace of changes in WMF
>> > > governance over the past few months feel like a breath of fresh air. I
>> > hope
>> > > that this direction and pace continue.
>> > >
>> > > Speaking of elections and governance, will the Founder's seat become
>> an
>> > > elected seat? It may be too early to answer this question, but I hope
>> > that
>> > > the BGC gives it some careful thought.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks again,
>> > >
>> > > Pine
>> > >
>> > > On Jul 20, 2016 18:00, "Dariusz Jemielniak" <dar...@alk.edu.pl>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Dear members of the Wikimedia community,
>> > >>
>> > >> As you know the board passed a resolution allowing for the creation
>> of a
>> > >> standing Elections Committee in November of last year [1]. Per the
>> > >> implementing resolution, the Board Governance Committee (BGC) has
>> > >> appointed
>> > >> the initial members from the recommendation of the Executive Director
>> > and
>> > >> her staff. We will be starting with 6 committee members:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    User:Ajraddatz
>> > >>    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ajraddatz>
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    User:Mardetanha
>> > >>    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Mardetanha>
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    User:Ruslik0
>> > >>    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ruslik0>
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    User:Philippe
>> > >>    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Philippe
>> >slate
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    User:KTC <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/KTC
>> >
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    User:Atropine
>> > >>    <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Atropine>
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> They will be joined by two official advisors from the Wikimedia
>> > >> Foundation:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    James Alexander (Manager, Trust & Safety) from Community
>> Engagement
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    Stephen LaPorte (Senior Legal Counsel) from the WMF Legal team
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> They will also be working closely with the BGC as a whole and
>> especially
>> > >> Nataliia and me. Because I may consider applying as a candidate in
>> the
>> > >> upcoming community-selection process I will be recusing for any
>> > >> discussions
>> > >> involving that election[2].
>> > >>
>> > >> The new committee, along with the BGC, will, of course, be able to
>> > choose
>> > >> how many members and advisors they truly need and how to recruit the
>> > best
>> > >> candidates. One of the first orders of business for the committee
>> will
>> > be
>> > >> to decide on a process for expanding its membership through some
>> form of
>> > >> open call. While there is an enormous amount of work for the
>> committee
>> > to
>> > >> do, it can be expected that they will begin looking at:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    The selection of a committee Chair
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    The dates and process for the upcoming community selection process
>> > (and
>> > >>    consider shortening the terms and having community elections in
>> early
>> > >> 2017,
>> > >>    so that the elected members would join the Board at April
>> > meeting[3]).
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    The method of voting for that process both for the upcoming
>> selection
>> > >>    and the future and
>> > >>    -
>> > >>
>> > >>    The composition of the board and how to ensure a steady supply of
>> > good
>> > >>    candidates (in particular, making sure that the candidates have
>> the
>> > >>    skills and expertise matching the Board skill matrix while making
>> > sure
>> > >> that
>> > >>    the process is still owned by the community[4]).
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> Just as the BGC is committed to greater transparency (see for example
>> > our
>> > >> recent minutes[5]), the committee will likely consult with the wider
>> > >> Wikimedia community in developing and revising election procedures
>> > within
>> > >> the scope of this charter to the greatest extent possible.
>> > >>
>> > >> This day has been a long time coming and is the result of requests
>> made
>> > by
>> > >> multiple different temporary election committees over the years. I'm
>> > glad
>> > >> to finally see it come to fruition and hope that it will allow our
>> > >> selection process to continue to expand and improve well beyond the
>> > >> record-breaking election we had in 2015.
>> > >>
>> > >> Before I sign off I also wanted to call out the amazing work of the
>> 2015
>> > >> temporary Election Committee[6]. They were put together in 2015 to do
>> > one
>> > >> thing: run an election. They did that well (with almost 3x the
>> > >> participation of the next largest year) but then they went well
>> beyond
>> > the
>> > >> call of duty in serving as an advisory body to the board, offering
>> > >> invaluable feedback on how to fill the empty community selected
>> seats we
>> > >> saw this year. They did not have to do this, but they did it anyway,
>> > and I
>> > >> hope that everyone can acknowledge the stress and courage that took.
>> > >>
>> > >> Please join me in thanking the 2015 committee and welcoming the new
>> > >> standing committee!
>> > >>
>> > >> Dariusz Jemielniak ("pundit", current Board member)
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>    - [1]
>> > >> https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Resolution:Elections_Committee
>> > >>    - [2] See also my disclosure to the BGC on that matter:
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/2017_Election_Disclosure
>> > >>    - [3]
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2016-June/084592.html
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >>    - [4]
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/2016_competence_matrix
>> > >>    - [5]
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Committee/Minutes_07-08-2016
>> > >>    - [6]
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> >
>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections_2015/Committee#Membership
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