Hi,

I have moved and add WikiObject project information to
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiObject

greetings

El jue., 30 jun. 2016 a las 7:29, <jay...@gmail.com> escribió:

> The wikidata mailing list or wiki would be good venues to continue the
> discussion.
>
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 03:54 Quico Prol, <franp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I talked with open source hardware community members and also see a great
> > potencial in this. One of them is working in a Open Source prototyping
> > board (https://github.com/FPGAwars/icezum).
> >
> > I created two example wikidata items releated with it: the open source
> > prototype board itself (https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25026145) and one
> > of
> > its components, a SMD resistance (
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q25030181
> > ).
> >
> > IMHO Wikidata is the best host for this idea. Also It already have
> > propierties like "connector (P2935)" , "power consumed (P2791)", "source
> > code repository (P1324)", "sponsor (P859)", "manufacturer (P176)", these
> > two last ones could may companies contributors and proclive too appear
> here
> > and to opensource data.
> >
> > I see a lot possibilities, problems , solutions , etc, but i don't nknow
> if
> > this is the place to expand the conversation,
> >
> > greetings
> >
> > 2016-06-27 12:15 GMT+02:00 Quico Prol <franp...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hi, how about a wikipedia about objects?
> > >
> > > Instead of generic articles of , for example, "Ballpoint pen" or  "Bic
> > > cristal" it would be "Ballpoint pen Bic cristal 2014"
> > >
> > > Doing these for millions of objects would allow people to have an open,
> > > free, universal and central place to refer specific objects.
> > >
> > > *Some possible applications:*
> > >
> > >
> > >    - Creating neutral and standard lists:
> > >
> > >    Nowadays if anyone create, for example, a tutorial for building
> > >    something (DIY projects, receipts, ...) they have to link all items
> > to a
> > >    comercial or no-neutral web which could change its url in the future
> > or
> > >    redirect it to adds or whatever.
> > >
> > >    Lists could be created in external webpages linking wikimedia
> objects
> > >    webpage or/and could be created as category pages in Wikipedia. For
> > >    example, currently, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Car_of_the_Year
> > >    article lists cars which won COTY award but not links to the
> specific
> > car
> > >    (AUDI A3 Hatchback 2012 - Present) but generic serie (Audi A3).
> > >
> > >    The good thing at this point it's that to start creating object
> > >    lists only item name is necessary, no infoboxes or description
> needed.
> > >
> > >
> > >    - Universal repository for inventories:
> > >
> > >    Lot of business fill their inventories again and again with same
> data
> > >    ("cardboard box 50x30x15", "step by step nema motor 17", ... ) they
> > should
> > >    be able to import  this data from a open website with their
> > corresponding
> > >    info like   GTIN , SKU , Barcode... and more in the future  weight,
> > size,
> > >    ...
> > >
> > > - Encourage Recycling and Reutilitation:
> > >
> > >    Imagine if we use wikidata properties  (
> > >    https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:List_of_properties/Generic)
> like
> > >    "has part" and "part of" , people will find other uses for objects,
> or
> > >    discover were to find
> > >
> > >    - Social activism and Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR)
> > >
> > >    Companies have info and metrics about their costumers (habits,
> > >    location, ...) why not costumers have info about companies products,
> > who
> > >    manufacture what?, what products have a good carbon footprint
> > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_footprint>?, what products
> have
> > >    been retired from some problem?, what are Fair Trade?. This also can
> > moved
> > >    companies do better.
> > >
> > >
> > > *Very rough roadmap*:
> > >
> > >
> > >    1. At the very begining, using wikidata infrestructure, objects
> would
> > >    only have common info like "name", " image", "related  links"
> > >    (datasheets?), GTIN.
> > >
> > >    First use cases could be doing lists or grouping objects by
> > categories.
> > >
> > >    2. Step by step new fields could be added like "manufacturer" ,
> > >    "tags", ...
> > >
> > >    3. A separated website could be created. wikiobject.org isn't
> > >    availiabe so url could be something like objects.wikpedia.org
> > >
> > >    4. In a long-term in order to explote all the possibilities of this
> > >    project more complex fields and relations would have to be managed,
> > like
> > >     for example "fridges with energy class A+++ and width less than 80
> > cm",
> > >    which could be easy if all always were similar but nothing further
> > from
> > >    reality
> > >
> > >    A friend of mine and me tried to build a demo version in an
> home-made
> > >    apache cassandra cluster four years ago, but we don't have enough
> > resources
> > >    and knowledge for that.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > *Funding*
> > > In my humble opinion, problem with wikipedia funding It's that most
> part
> > > of its users don't see culture as a need (sorry for that, I am a
> sporadic
> > > donor). In Wikiobject case I think it could rather be different.
> > >
> > > If part of companies business lies on this project, companies will be
> > very
> > > inclined to donate to improve performace, usability, etc.. maybe
> similar
> > to
> > > what happens in Linux.
> > >
> > > Where came this need from? Data needed for some software to run,
> product
> > > vissibility, costumer requests, etc ... , no advertisement needed, It
> > could
> > > be a need and standart.
> > >
> > > I trully believe that world need something like this, and the correct
> > > people to do it, to warranty openness and independence, are you.
> > >
> > > thanks for your time and attention,
> > > grettings
> > >
> > >
> > >
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