Good to know :-) I was mostly just wondering if the music industry
initiative was making any headway, from an outside perspective. Because if
they chip a bit off, they won't stop there.

On 19 December 2016 at 20:22, Charles M. Roslof <cros...@wikimedia.org>
wrote:

> Throughout 2016, the US Copyright Office has been collecting input on the
> DMCA safe harbors. WMF has submitted written comments to the Copyright
> Office <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/06/save-safe-harbors-open-web/
> >[1]
> and participated in in-person discussions
> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/06/16/copyright-law/>[2] on this issue.
> We're currently in the process of preparing a submission as part of a
> second
> round of Copyright Office comments
> <https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/08/2016-
> 26904/section-512-study-request-for-additional-comments>,
> due in February.[3]
>
> If you have questions about what's going on with the safe harbors or have
> suggestions about what we should say in the second round of comments, I
> encourage you to start a discussion on the public policy mailing list
> <https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy>[4] or email me
> directly.
>
>  - Charles
>
> [1] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/04/06/save-safe-harbors-open-web/
> [2] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2016/06/16/copyright-law/
> [3]
> https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2016/11/08/2016-
> 26904/section-512-study-request-for-additional-comments
> [4] https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/publicpolicy
>
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> On Mon, Dec 19, 2016 at 11:04 AM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I see, thank you for your explanation, coming from a civil law system it
> > sounds pretty weird. Anyway I concur, it's pure madness and some action
> > must be taken.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > 2016-12-19 19:46 GMT+01:00 geni <geni...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > On 19 December 2016 at 18:38, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I wouldn't call DMCA safe harbor(s) "how Wikipedia is allowed to
> > exist".
> > > At
> > > > a glance I'd say it would (at worst) impact on some (most) wikis way
> to
> > > > handle copyvios/the thin red line around fair-use, but most of our
> > > > ecosystem shouldn't be affected. So, what am I missing?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Without some form of safe harbor the likes of AP and getty would have
> > > a fairly solid case for statutory damages for every single one of
> > > their images uploaded even if we deleted them fairly quickly. We could
> > > probably argue it down to $200 per image but it would still add up.
> > >
> > > --
> > > geni
> > >
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