Okay I have been bold and started a list of the known banned socks of companies involved in undisclosed paid editing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Doc_James/Paid_Editing_Companies I have also started the discussion of the policy implications of such a list here and will not work further on the list further until the policy discussions are complete https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Harassment#Socks_of_undisclosed_paid_WP_editing_companies Best James On Thu, Jan 19, 2017 at 6:52 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > If we had such a list of known bad actors created by the WMF we could than > more easily apply the G5 speedy deletion criteria. > > It is easier to associate an undisclosed paid editor with the company they > are from than with their previous sock accounts. > > James > > On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Jytdog at Wikipedia < > jytdogte...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks for this Jacob. >> >> Would you please address Legal's approach to the following scenario: a >> company advertises Wikipedia editing services for clients, and there is no >> disclosure of paid editing by an editor employed by or affiliated with the >> company on Wikipedia. (In other words, a company is obviously not >> following the Terms of Use). >> >> In my view, this is a situation where I would think that Legal should >> start >> a discussion with that company, and if those discussions fail to yield a >> change in behavior, Legal should then make a public statement indicating >> this, perhaps on the page you recently posted under a section entitled >> something like: "Companies that advertise Wikipedia editing services that >> have no disclosures on Wikipedia". If a company starts to disclose then >> of >> course the listing could be modified. >> >> This is something that editors ~could~ do, but as the ToU are issued by >> the >> WMF, it would seem more appropriate for WMF to do. >> >> But I am interested to hear Legal's perspective. >> >> Thanks >> >> On Wed, Jan 18, 2017 at 9:17 PM, Jacob Rogers <jrog...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> >> > Hi all, >> > >> > As I mentioned in my email earlier this month, we've put together a >> longer >> > statement regarding paid editing and how we see the balance of the >> > communities' role and the role that WMF legal can play in these cases. >> We >> > tried to address the concerns that people have raised to us, and explain >> > when it's helpful to contact us to assist on a case. Of note, it does >> > explain what actions we can take even in cases that don't involve the >> WMF >> > trademarks. >> > >> > You can find it here: Wikimedia Foundation statement on paid editing and >> > outing >> > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikimedia_ >> > Foundation_statement_on_paid_editing_and_outing> >> > >> > Best, >> > Jacob >> > -- >> > >> > Jacob Rogers >> > Legal Counsel >> > Wikimedia Foundation >> > >> > NOTICE: This message might have confidential or legally privileged >> > information in it. If you have received this message by accident, please >> > delete it and let us know about the mistake. As an attorney for the >> > Wikimedia Foundation, for legal/ethical reasons I cannot give legal >> advice >> > to, or serve as a lawyer for, community members, volunteers, or staff >> > members in their personal capacity. For more on what this means, please >> see >> > our legal disclaimer >> > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>. >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >> i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > www.opentextbookofmedicine.com > -- James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine www.opentextbookofmedicine.com _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
