Hi Rogol, When I last spent some time looking at the proposal, I too felt that the contributions indicated that the policy had far too little community influence. *However*, if you'll entertain a hypothetical with me for a moment, let's suppose that the status quo continues and there is effectively no conduct policy for technical spaces -- in particular, Phabricator and MediaWiki, unless I am missing a conduct policy that already applies to them outside of the ToS. If there is no policy, is that better than the policy that Matthew has been drafting?
I am not saying that I am happy with the process or content of the proposed policy. On the other hand, I also think there should be something resembling a civility policy and a system for enforcing it, for Phabricator and MediaWiki in particular. So if the Code of Conduct that Matthew is proposing fails in any number of ways (e.g. failing its RfC, failing through lack of enforcement, etc.), what would you propose be done instead? I'll note that I'm an admin on the Outreach wiki, where are policies are few and far between, but fortunately there are few disputes on Outreach, and most of the problematic behavior that I've seen as an admin involved clear-cut cases of spam, so I haven't felt a need for us to spend countless hours drafting and discussing policies. I wonder, are the Phabricator and Mediawiki spaces generally civil enough that this CoC is disproportionately weighty as compared to the problems, or would a CoC be a net benefit to them? What do you (and others) think? I'm not experienced enough in those spaces to feel like I know enough about them to say one way or the other. Much as I'm unenthusiastic about the TCoC, I would hope that if there is not a consensus to implement it, that the consequences and possible follow-up actions from that decision are carefully considered. Pine _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>