Yann

Did you ask for, or receive, any help from the WMF?  If so, was it
effective?  If not, do you think you should have done?

"Rogol"

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Yann Forget <yan...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have a personal experience which is worth considering.
> One of my picture uploaded on Commons under CC-BY-SA was used without
> attribution by a political party on their website and 2 of their leaflets
> (printed to more than 10,000 copies each).
> I contacted them, and they immediately acknowledged that the license was
> not respected. Their excuse was "We didn't know", which is quite difficult
> to accept.
> But then they stopped answering to my mails.
> So I contacted a lawyer, who told me that I should ask "at least 5,000
> euros".
> Then the politician said to my lawyer than "I have agreed to a compensation
> of a few euros", which is completely false.
> Consequence: My lawyer could not negotiate more than a few hundreds euros.
> Morality: It would have been much better for me to contact a lawyer
> directly rather than trying to negotiate an amicable agreement. :(
>
> Regards,
>
> Yann
>
>
> 2017-03-05 15:30 GMT+01:00 James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Am looking into options. Am going to be discussing things with a lawyer.
> > Might be good to have a number of Wikipedians involved and will ask him.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Rogol Domedonfors <
> domedonf...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > James, that's very helpful and I see at least one book on that list
> that
> > > violates the licence, and hence breaches my copyright, in content that
> I
> > > wrote.  What's the best way forward?  Should  the WMF represent the
> > > community by engaging directly with the company responsible?  Or should
> > it
> > > coordinate and advise individual contributors making numerous
> individual
> > > approaches?  Or should it do nothing?  What's best?
> > >
> > > "Rogol"
> > >
> > > On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 2:39 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Rupert here is a list of 213,000 books that are based on Wikipedia
> > > without
> > > > proper attribution.
> > > >
> > > > https://www.google.ca/search?tbm=bks&hl=en&q=%22CTI+Reviews%22
> > > >
> > > > James
> > > >
> > > > On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 3:47 AM, David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > This thread is notably long on hypothetical and meta-level
> > discussions
> > > > > and very short on concrete examples of the supposedly problematic
> > > > > uploads under discussion. What are the generally accepted examples
> of
> > > > > what we're actually talking about here?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > - d.
> > > > >
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