And as we are spread around the world, distribution through local affiliates 
would be less of a logistics problem in many cases.
Cheers,
Peter

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From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
James Heilman
Sent: Friday, 17 March 2017 10:09 PM
To: Wikimedia Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcing the Hardware donation program

Many of us also get newer laptops while the older ones are still functional. I 
bet their are many community members who would also be happy to donate to such 
a program.

James

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 12:58 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
wrote:

> Sounds like a nice thought :) But maybe first go through this round, 
> and see how that works out? It sounds like a big challenge, and I'm 
> really curious how they are going to limit overhead. It still sounds 
> like a big project to me. So lets reduce the amount of community 
> requests that may make it more complicated to a minimum :P
>
> If it works well, maybe you could look for some community member(s) 
> that want to help in scaling it up a bit?
>
> Best,
> Lodewijk
>
> 2017-03-17 18:19 GMT+01:00 Yuri Astrakhan <yuriastrak...@gmail.com>:
>
> > I wonder if it would make sense to solicit 3rd party laptop 
> > donations for this program? E.g. some businesses may be happy to 
> > donate their old
> laptops
> > to Wikipedia volunteers...  I am not sure how big of an overhead it 
> > would be, but if WMF is already doing it, 20 vs 200 might not be a 
> > significant difference (?) .
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 1:14 PM Michael Maggs <mich...@maggs.name>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you Asaf.  Did you know that there is already a Commons page 
> > > for Community donations?
> > >
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Equipment_exchange
> > >
> > > It would be worth linking your new Meta page to the existing one.
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > > Asaf Bartov <mailto:abar...@wikimedia.org>
> > > > 17 March 2017 at 6:06 am
> > > > Dear Wikimedians,
> > > >
> > > > The Wikimedia Foundation is pleased to announce a small new 
> > > > program
> > > called
> > > > the Hardware Donation Program. In a word, it is a program 
> > > > designed to donate depreciated (but fully working) hardware from 
> > > > the WMF office
> to
> > > > community members who would put it to good use.
> > > >
> > > > The program, including instructions on how to apply, is 
> > > > described on
> > > Meta,
> > > > here:
> > > >
> > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hardware_donation_program
> > > >
> > > > Please read the information carefully. I especially encourage 
> > > > you to
> > pay
> > > > attention to the program's design considerations, which 
> > > > determine
> most
> > of
> > > > the decisions we'll be making.
> > > >
> > > > We currently have approximately 20 laptops ready to be donated.
> > > > Applications are welcome.
> > > >
> > > > The upcoming Wikimedia Conference in Berlin (in about two weeks)
> would
> > be
> > > > an excellent opportunity to deliver some of those laptops in 
> > > > person
> to
> > > > approved applications, so if you think you might be interested, 
> > > > I'd encourage you to apply as soon as possible.
> > > >
> > > > Please also help spread the word about this program, by 
> > > > forwarding
> this
> > > > e-mail to other Wikimedia lists you're on, and posting the link 
> > > > to
> the
> > > > program page on village pumps and *community* (not public) 
> > > > social
> media
> > > > channels or other communication forms you use.
> > > >
> > > > Special thanks to User:Anntinomy from Wikimedia Ukraine, who had 
> > > > the
> > idea
> > > > of asking about possible donation of older machines from WMF, 
> > > > and
> > > inspired
> > > > this program.
> > > >
> > > > Mini-FAQ:
> > > >
> > > > Q: Why are you doing this?
> > > > A: WMF's Office IT determines a lifetime for work machines, and
> > regularly
> > > > replaces older machines. This creates a stock of older, working
> > machines,
> > > > that are available for donation. We can donate them locally to 
> > > > San Francisco charities, but figure that if we can find low-cost 
> > > > ways to deliver them to our own community members, that's so much 
> > > > better.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Am I eligible?
> > > > A: Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: If I'm eligible, am I guaranteed a donated laptop?
> > > > A: no.
> > > >
> > > > Q: Once these 20 laptops are donated, will there be others?
> > > > A: yes, eventually.
> > > >
> > > > Q: How can you ensure people would use the machines for 
> > > > Wikimedia purposes?
> > > > A: We can't. We'll be making a good-effort assessment of the
> likelihood
> > > of
> > > > Wikimedia use, and make a decision to donate (or not) the equipment.
> > Once
> > > > donated, the equipment no longer belongs to WMF. We encourage, 
> > > > but
> > can't
> > > > enforce, reporting on impact achieved using the equipment.
> > > >
> > > > Q: I need a few laptops for my event in two weeks! Can I get 
> > > > them
> > through
> > > > this program?
> > > > A: No. Read the fine program documentation.
> > > >
> > > > Q: I'm really happy about this!
> > > > A: So are we! :)
> > > >
> > > > Q: I'm really angry about this!
> > > > A: So it goes.
> > > >
> > > > Q: I have more questions!
> > > > A: Hit 'Reply'. :)
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Asaf
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