Hoi, As a non native English speaker, I positively hate this. When you want to say that a picture of a photographer whatever, you do not have to say "his or her", it suffices to say "when a picture of a photographer is to be used, prior permission has to be asked" or whatever.
Yes, it may please you but this practise is not taught in schools and given the size of the non-native community ... don't do this Thanks, GerardM On 6 April 2017 at 13:30, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote: > Le 05/04/2017 à 12:52, Fæ a écrit : > > I'm taking that further by > > proposing that we stick to a neutral gender for all our policies and > > help pages. In practice this means that policies avoid using "he or > > she" and stick to "they" or avoid using a pronoun at all. > > As a non native English speaker the use of a plural form definitely > confuses me or at best. The example takes a sentence from Commons:FAQ > which roughly looks like: > > A photographer has to be given credit when his or her picture is used. > > With the proposal to instead: > > A photographer has to be given credit when their picture is used. > > Why isn't "picture" plural as well? If using masculine as a neutral > pronoum is the issue, just stop using the pronoum entirely. Eg one can > instead write: > > A photographer has to be given credit when the picture is used. > > > That is going to be quite a challenge when ported to other languages. > For 'A photographer', the english indefinite article is gender less. > > In french that would be either 'un' (masculine) or 'une' (feminine). > What some are advocating is using: > > Un/une photographe > > If the noun varies as well, that becomes messy. Here for 'administrateur': > > Un/une adminstra-teur-trice > > That is not solvable in french and all other latin based languages most > probably have the same issue (blame Rome!). > > > -- > Antoine "hashar" Musso > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>