By the way a certain degree of accountability is needed. There cannot be any privacy for "wikingers" or people bringing cyberbulling to wiki.
Vito 2017-06-06 2:10 GMT+02:00 Risker <risker...@gmail.com>: > As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the past by actual Tor > users), there is no problem whatsoever for Tor users to read Wikipedia > while using Tor. Editing is a completely different situation - and well it > should be, given the pure unadulterated trash that tends to come in > whenever a Tor exit node is missed in the routine lockdowns. > > I recognize the concerns about ISP tracking and what I assume most > Wikimedians would consider inappropriate use of their browsing > information. I understand why more and more Wikimedians are electing to > use VPNs and other more secure methods of accessing the internet. But VPNs > are also heavily abused - not just by socks, but by individuals who > consciously and intentionally disrupt projects - and thus more and more of > them are getting locked in "only accounts can edit" or even "only IPBE can > edit" mode - often on a global basis, not just one individual wiki. It > occurs to me that we can probably be more liberal in handing out IPBE - > which covers both Tor users and VPN users. It's not an idea situation, > since people have to establish their account history before anyone's going > to hand them IPBE, but it is probably better than nothing. And yes, the > place to ask is at Global IPBE, because getting IPBE on only one project is > unhelpful if one also pitches in elsewhere (Wikidata, Commons, etc.). > > Risker/Anne > > On 5 June 2017 at 19:34, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote: > > > Cristian Consonni wrote: > > >I have read several discussions on the topic (going back to 2006) and > > >what I have understood from those is that the biggest issue with editing > > >via Tor is sockpuppeting. > > > > This Phabricator comment you found seems pretty useful: > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71333#728636>. > > > > And Faidon posted in November 2014 about the establishment of a Tor > relay: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014- > November/079392.html > > > > How does your proposal interact (if at all) with the existing Tor relay > > set up in late 2014? > > > > It's unclear to me whether "Tor onion service" in this context is > > equivalent to a Tor exit node. I'm fairly sure setting up the latter has > > been discussed previously on wikimedia-l and/or wikitech-l. > > > > MZMcBride > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>