By the way a certain degree of accountability is needed.
There cannot be any privacy for "wikingers" or people bringing cyberbulling
2017-06-06 2:10 GMT+02:00 Risker <risker...@gmail.com>:
> As far as I can tell (and from comments made in the past by actual Tor
> users), there is no problem whatsoever for Tor users to read Wikipedia
> while using Tor. Editing is a completely different situation - and well it
> should be, given the pure unadulterated trash that tends to come in
> whenever a Tor exit node is missed in the routine lockdowns.
> I recognize the concerns about ISP tracking and what I assume most
> Wikimedians would consider inappropriate use of their browsing
> information. I understand why more and more Wikimedians are electing to
> use VPNs and other more secure methods of accessing the internet. But VPNs
> are also heavily abused - not just by socks, but by individuals who
> consciously and intentionally disrupt projects - and thus more and more of
> them are getting locked in "only accounts can edit" or even "only IPBE can
> edit" mode - often on a global basis, not just one individual wiki. It
> occurs to me that we can probably be more liberal in handing out IPBE -
> which covers both Tor users and VPN users. It's not an idea situation,
> since people have to establish their account history before anyone's going
> to hand them IPBE, but it is probably better than nothing. And yes, the
> place to ask is at Global IPBE, because getting IPBE on only one project is
> unhelpful if one also pitches in elsewhere (Wikidata, Commons, etc.).
> On 5 June 2017 at 19:34, MZMcBride <z...@mzmcbride.com> wrote:
> > Cristian Consonni wrote:
> > >I have read several discussions on the topic (going back to 2006) and
> > >what I have understood from those is that the biggest issue with editing
> > >via Tor is sockpuppeting.
> > This Phabricator comment you found seems pretty useful:
> > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T71333#728636>.
> > And Faidon posted in November 2014 about the establishment of a Tor
> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikitech-l/2014-
> > How does your proposal interact (if at all) with the existing Tor relay
> > set up in late 2014?
> > It's unclear to me whether "Tor onion service" in this context is
> > equivalent to a Tor exit node. I'm fairly sure setting up the latter has
> > been discussed previously on wikimedia-l and/or wikitech-l.
> > MZMcBride
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