And for the sake of proper understanding... Rémi Mathis is the husband of the current vice-chair of Wikimedia France.

Nuff said.


Florence


Le 03/08/2017 à 12:17, Rémi Mathis a écrit :
Dear all,

As a member - and former chair - of Wikimedia France, this kind of message
really hurts my feelings and I still wonder why they can be posted on
international mailing lists.
We are supposed to act as responsible adults and work together so that the
chapters can manage projects... and I keep thinking we are pretty good at
it.

I don't want to read "shame", "false statement", "use Louise passing",
"uncollaborative way".
Both because it's a very agressive way to talk to human beings, because
it's misleading people about what's going on, and because it's simply not
true.

A few French wkipedians are not happy with the board and some of the
employees. They are about 25-30% of Wikimedia France members and asked for
a General Meeting - which will take place in September.
Some of their concerns can be understood, but some of those wikipedians
began to accuse the board of squandering money without any ground for it
(there have been two audits within the past few years and all the
accounts/expenses are audited yearly, published and commented to the
members), to go and see former employee's bosses to stalk them, to spread
rumours on their sexuality, to report members of the board to their own
boss etc. This is going mad. Really mad.

This is not "the community", Pierre-Selim, I'm sorry.
This is a few people, for various reasons, usualy very personal and very
bad ones. And those people refuse to acknowledge reality, even when the
board explains everything, even when lawyers explains what can and cannot
be done within a chapter.

I'm really worried about the behaviour of those people, and the future of
Wikimedia France - since the harassment could lead to prosecution from
employees.

Best,

Rémi










From: Pierre-Selim <pierre-se...@huard.info>
Date: 2 August 2017 at 20:09
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Update on Wikimédia France
To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>


The passing of Louise is really sad :(

On the other fronts, Edouard it feels like you're not telling things the
way
they really are.

"The board acknowledge..." means the board has been forced to a new AGM by
25%
of the member. Our bylaws dictate that.

The board has published a shameful "Right of reply" [1], full of
inexact/false
statements that are on the same line than the email sent by the board
on July 11th (and shared here by Chris [2]).
This Right of reply even "use" Louise passing ... For shame!

In an uncollaborative way, the board has not listen to the community/member
for
the agenda which forces the members to a new vote [3] to add items to the
agenda
... during the summer ... and Wikimania.

I hope the board will have again to "Acknowlege" the voice of the
community,
but I wish we did not had to go this way.

I am truly ashamed of this board,

[1] https://www.mathisbenguigui.eu/wikimedia-timeline/droitdereponse.html
[2] https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-July/
088008.html
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimédia_France/
Assemblée_générale/septembre_2017/Points_à_ajouter_à_l'ordre_du_jour

2017-07-26 17:56 GMT+02:00 Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com>:

Yes, I figured this out, thanks. Now copyediting.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Natacha Rault <n.ra...@me.com> wrote:

probably me...
Le 26 juil. 2017 à 17:49, Yaroslav Blanter <ymb...@gmail.com> a
écrit
:

Actually, after Catherine's mail, an English article was started by
someone
I can not recognize from the username.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louise_Merzeau

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Katherine Maher <
kma...@wikimedia.org

wrote:

Dear Édouard and our other colleagues at Wikimédia France,

We are sorry to hear about the passing of Mrs. Louise Merzeau.
While I
did
not have a chance to meet her, I understand she was an advocate for
the
Commons movement and a leading academic on digital identities and
the
relationship between technology and culture. I suspect we would have
gotten
along well.

Although she did not get to share her knowledge longer, we are
grateful
for
the contributions she made. I have no doubt Wikimedia would have
benefited
greatly from her continued advocacy.

I recognize with everything that is going on, an event like this can
quickly pass by without enough notice and tribute from all of us.
However,
I hope we can pause to recognize that, above all, we are people who
have
come together under a shared vision for a better future. The passion
and
bond that unites us are much stronger than any disagreements or
challenges.
Louise was a part of that vision, and we owe it to her to recognize
her
passing.

On behalf of the Wikimedia Foundation, please know that she is in
our
thoughts and that the community has our condolences.

Katherine

PS. I encourage you to learn more about Mrs. Merzeau and her life
from
her
article on French Wikipedia:  https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Louise_Merzeau
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