I wonder if WMF would be willing to let a non-WMF affiliate put up fundraising (which I consider to be another form of advertising, and perhaps some survey respondents did too) banners to get funds for COIN and related backlogs. Perhaps if the fundraising was done by a separate organization, then these efforts could be funded while minimizing the risks to WMF's legal protections.
Pine On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 2:20 AM, James Salsman <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: > > what proportion of articles at NPP appear paid for? > > And what percentage of socks / sock cases relate to paid editing? > > I would sure like to know this. > > I would also like to whether the Foundation could, hypothetically, > hire editors to address the COIN and related backlogs (AFC, etc.) > without endangering the safe harbor provisions; and if not, could a > Chapter or User Group, if they were or were not using Foundation > funds. Could the Foundation spin off an organization to address the > issue separately as in WikiEd? > > > On Thu, Aug 3, 2017 at 8:51 AM, James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I find the slide > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:July_ > 2017_Monthly_Metrics_Meeting.pdf&page=22> > > about whether or not people feel we are "free of advertising" interesting > > as we only got a 7.3 (with lower scores among younger readers). > > > > We unfortunately are not free of advertising. There is a large and > appears > > to be growing industry that sells Wikipedia articles / ads, which are > > mostly created through large groups of sock accounts. They also are > > involved with adding SEO links. > > > > We are struggling to get a handle on this at the COI notice board > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Conflict_of_ > interest/Noticeboard>, > > which has seen over the last couple of days the listing of more than a > > hundred additional articles of concern, at SPI, and at WikiProject Spam. > > > > Would be useful to analysis just how significant this issue is, such as > > what proportion of articles at NPP appear paid for? And what percentage > of > > socks / sock cases relate to paid editing? > > > > James > > > > On Tue, Aug 1, 2017 at 7:33 PM, Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi all — > >> > >> Wikimania is coming, but before we get to Montreal, we are publishing > many > >> more insights, reports, guides, and research from our work during cycle > 3. > >> There's lots of good stuff and interesting insights (did you know Spain > is > >> consistently one of the countries with the highest awareness about our > >> projects and community?), and I encourage you to take a look. Here are a > >> few new updates: > >> > >> *New voices synthesis report.* Are you looking to better understand > >> New Voices projects? Start with this overview report — it summarizes our > >> work across many teams: insights from research, a summary of 58 expert > >> interviews, expert convenings hosted by the Foundation and affiliates, > >> design research findings, briefings on major trends that will impact the > >> community like misinformation and emerging platforms, further reading, > and > >> (of course!) references. > >> > >> *July Wikimedia Foundation metrics meeting.* During our July 27 > >> meeting, we reviewed new research on brand insights about why people do > >> (and do not) read Wikipedia, research that focuses on high-awareness > >> countries as part of New Voices initiatives. > >> > >> *Strategic direction committee update.* We are working to consider > >> what we have heard from the community and learned from research to > identify > >> what we want to achieve as a movement by 2030. We will share our first > >> draft of the strategic direction with all of you in advance of > Wikimania. > >> We’re looking forward to your thoughts on the talk page! > >> > >> *Wikimania movement strategy and events.* Speaking of Wikimania, the > >> Foundation is preparing 6 sessions related to the strategy process in > the > >> official program. We will also offer you a physical location for > engaging > >> with the strategic direction: the Movement Strategy Space, open from > >> Thursday through Sunday. The Space will host different working sessions, > >> discussions, and the chance to re-energize for the coming weeks and > months > >> (we have some special things in store!). The conference organizers are > also > >> preparing a remote attendee plan with live video and content for the > >> conference overall, so you will be able to participate if you’re not > able > >> to come to Montreal. Please note that online registration ended July 31; > >> after that you can register on-site starting August 8. > >> > >> ভালো থাকবেন। (Bengali translation: “Stay well”) > >> > >> Katherine > >> > >> PS. 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