Sam,
I can't get back to the banner for some reason, so I risk misquoting it. Please 
take this into account.
What I find offensive is the implication that the foundation would even have 
Wikipedia if they were doing it commercially. I and a significant number of 
other contributors would not have helped make it what it is today if it had 
been a commercial site. To support this opinion, there do not appear to be any 
commercial projects of this type even vaguely approaching the success of 
Wikipedia. The banner implies that there would be a roughly equivalent project 
available to sell. This I find offensive as it denigrates the voluntary 
contributions done by all the unpaid contributors.
I see this as misrepresentation and disrespect to the crowd that is the source 
of the product, therefore offensive.
It is possible that I am alone in this opinion, but I suggest that a survey of 
the people who actually created and maintain the content of Wikipedia would 
show that I am not. 
At this point, I suggest that WMF do just that, run a survey to find out who 
builds the encyclopaedia, and how they feel about this. The golden rule of 
crowdsourcing is don’t alienate the crowd, especially when they are doing your 
work for free. The one thing we ask in return for our work is a little 
recognition and respect, and to know that we do a thing intrinsically worth 
doing. Again, I realise I do not necessarily speak for everyone, but suspect 
that I speak for many.
Cheers,
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
Sam Wilson
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2017 10:26 AM
To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up

"Offensive" seems a bit over the top! Who's it offending? Seems pretty okay to 
me, personally. :-)

Anyway, the only thing I notice with it is that it starts with "We will..." and 
then says "When I made..." etc. Shouldn't these pronouns agree?

—Sam.

On Thu, 24 Aug 2017, at 04:07 PM, Peter Southwood wrote:
> The old style is excessively large and in your face. The new style is 
> almost, but not quite as bad. The content remains offensive and 
> misleading Cheers, Peter
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org] On 
> Behalf Of Joseph Seddon
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 5:02 PM
> To: Wikimedia Mailing List
> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New style banner - A heads up
> 
> Hey Wikimedia-l
> 
> Apologies for the short notice.
> 
> I wanted to give you a heads up on a banner test that will soon be 
> going live.
> 
> We've been working on a new style of banner that is specifically 
> designed to have the same native look and feel as the rest of the site 
> and interface. It's intended to be understated and you'll see is very 
> different to our currently best performing banner:
> 
> Current:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1718_0823_en6C_d
> sk_p1_lg_dsn_cnt&force=1&country=US&uselang=QA
> 
> New Native feel:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Einstein?banner=B1718_0823_en6C_d
> sk_p1_lg_dsn_native&force=1&country=US&uselang=QA
> 
> Any feedback is welcome.
> 
> Regards
> 
> --
> Seddon
> 
> *Advancement Associate (Community Engagement)* *Wikimedia Foundation* 
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