All possible stakeholders and participants in our 'value chain' should be
consulted and be part of developing strategy.

That does not make them all the same as the community that create our
projects or sustain our content long term. It's a mime that has been pushed
and stretched until the community of unpaid and "nonprofessional"
volunteers feel like second class citizens without a vote when it ever
matters.

Fae
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LGBT+
http://telegram.me/wmlgbt

On 2 Oct 2017 15:12, "Joseph Seddon" <josephsed...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Based on your definition of community does that mean that mediawiki
> developers are not part of the Wikimedia community?
>
> Are people who volunteer in the real world or teachers who incorporate
> Wikipedia into their classes not part of the Wikimedia community?
>
> Members of staff of GLAM institutions who we partner with and who
> evangelise on our behalf? Are they not part of the Wikimedia community?
>
> This more inclusive definition has long been used by some affiliates.
>
> To exclude these individuals would be against the very values of openness
> that we claim to represent and to be blunt, simply alienating.
>
> Seddon
>
> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:10 PM, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Ziko's point may not fit the rigid Americanocentric ideal of everything
> > must be positive, fantastic, yeehaw-we-are-number-one, but he's spot on
> > with how the foundations remain flawed.
> >
> > Only ever hearing congratulations and thanks can get you to a win, but
> will
> > never keep you there.
> >
> > Return to the talk page and use the criticism to help meaningful
> > improvements, please.
> >
> > Fae
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LGBT+
> > http://telegram.me/wmlgbt
> >
> > On 2 Oct 2017 14:56, "Ziko van Dijk" <zvand...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Katherine,
> >
> > This is actually sad news. In my opinion, the draft is far away from
> being
> > a useful and appropriate document for our future.
> >
> > The serious issues from the talk page are only partially addressed in the
> > rewrite. So I contest your claim: "The version on Meta-Wiki is based on
> the
> > feedback you offered."
> >
> > You have announced that organizations and individuals are invited to
> > endorse the draft. Will there also be a possibility to reject the draft?
> I
> > remember the 2011 image filter referendum, when the WMF asked the
> community
> > how important it finds the filter, but not giving the option to be
> against
> > it.
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image_filter_referendum/en&;
> > uselang=en
> >
> > The drafts tries to enforce a new definition of the "community": "from
> > editors to donors, to organizers, and beyond". I thought that "community"
> > were people who are contributing to the wiki Wikipedia on a regular basis
> > as volunteers.
> >
> > I am very positive of having an open Wikimedia *movement*. But if in
> future
> > more or less everybody will be *community*: that is in fact abolishing
> the
> > community.
> >
> > Kind regards,
> > Ziko van Dijk
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 2017-09-30 22:28 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher <kma...@wikimedia.org>:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Since my update last month, we have been collecting, processing, and
> > > including your most recent input into the lastest version of the
> movement
> > > strategic direction. This version is available on Meta-Wiki.[1]
> > >
> > > We're so close! The direction will be finalized tomorrow, October 1.
> > > Starting tomorrow, we will begin to invite individuals and groups to
> > > endorse our movement's strategic direction. I want to share my greatest
> > > thanks and appreciation for the work and contributions so many of you
> > have
> > > made throughout this first phase (Phase 1) of developing a shared
> > strategic
> > > direction.
> > >
> > > In the coming weeks we will be preparing for Phase 2, which will
> involve
> > > developing specific plans for how we achieve the direction we have
> built
> > > together. I do not have many more details to share right now, but will
> of
> > > course offer an update as they become available.
> > >
> > > *Strategic direction*. Thank you to everyone who provided feedback on
> the
> > > draft introduced at Wikimania. The version on Meta-Wiki is based on the
> > > feedback you offered.
> > >
> > > *Endorsements*. Once the strategic direction closes tomorrow,
> > > organizations, groups, and individuals within the movement will be
> > invited
> > > to endorse the direction, in a show of support for the future we are
> > > building together. We'll be sending an update next week on the process
> > and
> > > timeline.
> > >
> > > *Concluding Phase 1*. Please join me in offering thanks to the
> > volunteers,
> > > staff, and contractors who came together to make this possible! As we
> > > transition into Phase 2, some of these roles will be concluded and new
> > ones
> > > created in their place. We'll keep you updated.
> > >
> > > *Wikimedia CEE Meeting 2017*. I was fortunate to join Wikimedians from
> > > Central and Eastern Europe (CEE) last weekend at the sixth annual
> > Wikimedia
> > > CEE Meeting[2] in Warsaw, Poland. Nicole Ebber and Kaarel Vaidla led a
> > > series of discussions on the direction, including what it means for
> > CEE.[3]
> > > Thank you our hosts, Wikimedia Polska, and to all of the attendees for
> > such
> > > a wonderful event!
> > >
> > > *In other news.* I've heard from many people how much you appreciate
> > these
> > > updates as a means of keeping track about what is going on. I'm talking
> > to
> > > the Communications department about keeping them going once the
> strategic
> > > planning process concludes, with a focus on more general updates. Keep
> > the
> > > feedback coming.
> > >
> > > Since my last update, our planet has reminded us of its incredible and
> > > often unforgiving strength. My thoughts, and those of many within the
> > > Wikimedia Foundation, are with our Wikimedia family which have been
> > > affected by the natural disasters of recent weeks. We have been in
> touch
> > > with our affiliates in the areas impacted, and will offer any support
> we
> > > can.
> > >
> > > Finally, as our CFO Jaime mentioned last week,[3] the Foundation is in
> > the
> > > process of moving into our new office, in One Montgomery Tower. We
> invite
> > > you to visit its new page on Meta-Wiki.[4]
> > >
> > > We are at the halfway mark of this movement strategy process, and I am
> > > incredibly proud of the work we have done together on the strategy.
> Thank
> > > you, again, to everyone for your contributions to this process. We have
> > > more work ahead but should be proud of what we have achieved already.
> > >
> > > Ten cuidado (Spanish translation: “Be safe”),
> > >
> > > Katherine
> > >
> > > [1]
> > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_
> > movement/2017/Direction
> > > [2]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_CEE_Meeting_2017
> > > [3]
> > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CEE_meeting_2017_%
> > > E2%80%93_Movement_Strategy.pdf
> > > [4]
> > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimedia-l/2017-
> > > September/088654.html
> > > [5]  https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_headquarters
> > >
> > > --
> > > Katherine Maher
> > > Executive Director
> > >
> > > *We're moving on October 1, 2017!  **Our new address:*
> > >
> > > Wikimedia Foundation
> > > 1 Montgomery Street, Suite 1600
> > > San Francisco, CA 94104
> > >
> > > +1 (415) 839-6885 ext. 6635
> > > +1 (415) 712 4873
> > > kma...@wikimedia.org
> > > https://annual.wikimedia.org
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