For the moment I have virtually zero trust in all involved, including the
wmf board. Reorganize and regain trust!

John Erling Blad

On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 11:28 PM, Natacha Rault <n.ra...@me.com> wrote:

> Hi Maria, thank you.
>
> Personnally, and as an engaged feminist in real life, I dont believe one
> word of these allegations.
>
> My support goes to Christophe, and like you wrote, these allegations I
> think are not backed up by evidence as far as I have been informed).
>
> Too many people within the francophone community are being accused -
> causing resentment - of too many things that are simply not true, for me to
> be able to believe in this.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Natacha / Nattes à chat
>
> > Le 11 oct. 2017 à 19:54, María Sefidari <kewlshr...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > Dear all,
> >
> >
> > We would like to specifically address the allegations related to
> harassment
> > in this thread’s original email. We take all allegations of harassment
> > seriously. Earlier this year, the Board of Trustees was informed that
> > allegations of harassment had been made against the Wikimedia Foundation
> > Board Chair dating back to his time as chair of Wikimédia France. We
> > immediately directed the Foundation to investigate. The Foundation
> employed
> > independent, external experts and conducted an investigation. Based on
> the
> > information presented, the investigation found no support for the
> > allegations. That conclusion was conveyed to the Wikimedia Foundation
> Board
> > as well as the chair of Wikimédia France.
> >
> > The Wikimedia Foundation remains committed to independent investigation
> if
> > presented with new information. Absent such information, we consider the
> > allegations to be without merit.
> >
> >
> > On behalf of the Board,
> >
> >
> > María Sefidari
> >
> > El 8 oct. 2017 5:20, "John Erling Blad" <jeb...@gmail.com> escribió:
> >
> > When I first saw the posts I thought it would probably be more opinions
> to
> > them than the very clear blame-game that were going on. Having a partly
> > anonymous community and a chapter that only represents some of the users
> > are an invitation to fierce battles.
> >
> > Whatever going on at WMFR, I believe it is time for reevaluating the role
> > of WMF in this. I'm wondering if there should be a new board for WMF,
> > unless they get a new chair themselves asap. Reorganize, solve the
> > problems, and move on.
> >
> > No, I do not know any of the people involved.
> >
> > John Erling Blad
> > /jeblad
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Marie-Alice Mathis <
> > mariealice.gar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hello all,
> >>
> >> I haven’t had a real opportunity to introduce myself: I am Marie-Alice
> >> Mathis, 32, a now ex-member of the Board of Wikimédia France.
> >>
> >> The transition with the newly elected members of the Board is now
> complete
> >> and I gladly step down to get away from the violence, exhaustion and
> >> frustration of these past few months.
> >>
> >> I was a Board candidate because after completing my PhD I finally had
> more
> >> time to contribute to the projects and serve the community through the
> >> French chapter: after watching my husband Rémi Mathis do it for years I
> > had
> >> a pretty good idea of what it meant. I did not know our ED Nathalie
> Martin
> >> or our chair Émeric Vallespi before working with them, and now that I
> have
> >> I can vouch for their hard work and attachment to the movement’s values.
> >>
> >> Today, I have lost friends or people I thought were friends because I
> >> defended Nathalie and Émeric in good faith during the smear campaign
> based
> >> on the community’s assumption that they were the source and cause of all
> >> the chapter’s problems, real or perceived. Although I have worked with
> > them
> >> closely for a year, I have been repeatedly informed that I’ve been
> >> manipulated by Nathalie from the start and should not have blindly
> > believed
> >> everything Émeric was saying. I’ve been personally attacked on WMF
> sites,
> >> email lists, and social media for weeks, my every word scrutinised,
> >> questioned and mocked assuming I was either ignorant or lying. I’ve been
> >> told by so-called feminists who were endorsing a particularly sexist
> rant
> >> against me to “stop making inflammatory comments”. I’ve been called a
> >> conspiracy theorist because I questioned the role of our former chair
> >> Christophe Henner, now chair of the Board at the WMF, in the threats to
> >> withdraw our chapter agreement and the cutting of half our FDC funding.
> >> People close to Christophe who have resigned from the WMFR Board early
> in
> >> the crisis rather than take responsibility for their mistakes now call
> >> themselves victims and whistleblowers. The WMF, who is perfectly aware
> of
> >> the charges of sexual harassment filed by Nathalie against Christophe
> for
> >> facts dating back to when he was her boss at Wikimédia France, is
> >> pretending WMFR leadership has used the threat of legal action to
> >> intimidate chapter members and silence opposition.
> >>
> >> Some unfounded allegations have been made on this very list by prominent
> >> members of the community (and what is a newbie’s word worth in that
> case,
> >> right?): from extremely serious accusations of misuse of chapter funds
> for
> >> personal gain (that strangely enough never made it to the French justice
> >> system despite a so-called “rather convincing rationale”), to gratuitous
> >> ones that Nathalie was making the Board’s decisions for us and dictating
> >> our communication (I am old enough to write my own emails, thank you
> very
> >> much), to ever vague ones of “quite generous expenses reimbursement“.
> None
> >> of this has been supported by proof or tangible facts, but the goal of
> >> spreading distrust and dissent in the chapter and the wider community
> has
> >> clearly been reached. Even now that Nathalie has left her position and
> the
> >> Board has resigned, some are still defaming her in the French media in
> the
> >> hopes of winning the stupid argument of who were the bad guys in the
> >> crisis.
> >>
> >> I am also extremely disappointed that no one from this list asked us
> (the
> >> Board) what was happening when these allegations were made, with only a
> >> handful of people suggesting to wait before all the facts were known.
> >> Instead, you took for granted the very short and extremely biased
> English
> >> summaries of the Board’s communications (which were instantly circulated
> > on
> >> this list without our consent and in violation of our chapter’s bylaws),
> >> and joined in the chorus of outrage, condemnation and verbal abuse.
> >>
> >> But worse to me than all this, I am actually terrified at how easily the
> >> Wikimedia community can turn on a person, with no regard whatsoever for
> >> decency or legality, when it has made up its mind about who has no place
> >> there. I have personally experienced what it means to disagree with this
> >> angry mob: questioning the dominant opinion or calling out individuals’
> >> toxic behaviour makes you in turn acceptable collateral damage and a
> “fair
> >> game” target for harassment.
> >>
> >> Speaking of this, the movement as a whole needs to address the issue of
> >> staff-volunteers relations exemplified by the rapid turnover of
> executive
> >> staff across chapters. Nathalie stayed at WMFR an almost record
> breaking 4
> >> years, but at what cost? I’m being extremely serious in adding that this
> >> conversation needs to take place before something irreversible happens
> as
> > a
> >> result of harmful group behaviour within the community.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Marie-Alice Mathis // AlienSpoon
> >>
> >>
> >> PS: for your information about my position regarding the WMF’s role in
> > this
> >> crisis and their recent unilaterally added conditions [
> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grant_expectations_for_
> >> Wikimedia_France_-_2017-2018]
> >> for payment of our FDC-attributed grant, I attach my email to Katy Love
> >> from Sept 20.
> >>
> >> Katy, (Cc WMFr Board and Rémi)
> >>
> >> In the WMF "Grant expectations" document sent to the Board of WMFr, you
> >> mention as a condition for APG funds payment that I do not resign from
> my
> >> position on the Board until the governance review is complete, and that
> > any
> >> Board member planning to resign must report and justify it to WMF.
> >>
> >> You also mention that you retain the right to cease funding WMFr if you
> >> consider that legal threats are being used inappropriately to stifle
> civil
> >> and appropriate participation in the chapter. Moreover, you condition
> >> payment to being informed if the chapter leadership feels that legal
> > action
> >> is appropriate to take against current or former board members or staff.
> >>
> >> Let me be clear: these conditions are outrageous and unacceptable.
> >>
> >> First of all, my legitimacy as a Board member of WMFr does not come from
> >> any commitment to WMF but from being democratically elected by French
> >> chapter members. WMF has no say in who stays or not on the Board, and
> >> trying to intervene on such governance issues is, again, putting both
> >> organisations at risk of being legally recognised as co-employers.
> >>
> >> Second, as a (volunteer) Board member I have been subjected to
> harassment,
> >> sexist abuse, and unjustified allegations of misconduct by community
> >> members, that have impacted my health and mental well being to the point
> >> where I was no longer able to do my (paid) job in cancer patient care
> and
> >> my GP put me on medical leave. A large volume of this abuse took place
> on
> >> WMF property (fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipédia:Le_Bistro
> <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro>
> > <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro>
> >> <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro>
> >> <http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikip%C3%A9dia:Le_Bistro> and the
> >> WMF-hosted,
> >> publicly archived mailing lists wikimedia-l and wikimediafr).
> >> You personally and on behalf of WMF encouraged French community members
> to
> >> challenge chapter leadership citing governance issues, without a word
> >> mentioning the violence suffered by the Board and executive staff at the
> >> hands of some French members during this crisis. Worse, you presented
> the
> >> Board's email condemning the harassment as inaccurate and problematic,
> >> which made the community feel all the more legitimate in their harmful
> >> attacks.
> >> When I reported the abuse in person to WMF employees during the site
> visit
> >> you personally empathised with my distress at the time, and thanked me
> for
> >> being honest about how your email to the wikimediafr list had made our
> >> already precarious situation untenable. And then you did nothing.
> >> My husband Rémi, who witnessed first hand the effects of the harassment
> on
> >> my health, called on you to release the site visit report so the
> > misconduct
> >> allegations would stop. You didn't, until 3 days before our General
> >> Assembly (where the allegations were repeated), on the same day you
> asked
> >> that I stay on as a Board member. Even your choice of words in the
> "Grant
> >> expectations" document is telling: "egregious incivility" is not what we
> >> are talking about here. We are talking about unacceptable and illegal
> >> defamation and harassment with serious real life consequences.
> >> Rémi also called on the wikimedia-l list to stop the unfounded
> > allegations,
> >> and was attacked in turn because of "his conflict of interest as the
> >> husband of a Board member". He also reported the abuse to the WMF
> >> governance committee, to the Suport and Safety team and mentioned it to
> >> Christophe Henner and Katherine Maher on Twitter, to no avail. To this
> day
> >> we haven't received any support or acknowledgement whatsoever. All the
> >> while the sexist abuse continues, and French editor MrButler was
> moderated
> >> on the wikimediafr maling list for his continued personal attacks
> against
> >> me. This is exactly the kind of behaviour the Board's email to the
> members
> >> was calling out, yet you continue to deliberately ignore it and refuse
> to
> >> do anything about it.
> >>
> >> Finally, your asking to be informed of any legal action against chapter
> >> members or staff is yet another example of the WMF taking sides while
> >> posing as a neutral arbitrator. Calling someone out on their toxic
> >> behaviour or actually filing a complaint are no legal threats or
> >> intimidation, but by claiming they are you are trying to silence victims
> > by
> >> denying them their basic rights to legal protection. At least two
> >> complaints have been filed against community members and more may be
> >> coming, including on my behalf. You will not be informed because it is
> not
> >> for WMF to decide whether they are justified or frivolous.
> >>
> >> For all these reasons I am deeply shocked and hurt by your payment
> >> conditions and will not abide by the terms of your grant expectations.
> > With
> >> most of WMFr funding hanging in the balance your unilaterally revised
> >> conditions amount to blackmail but I will not stay in harm's way at the
> >> request of the organisation who has failed me in every aspect when I
> came
> >> in good faith to work for the community. I will resign when I see fit to
> >> protect my health, and continue to speak honestly and publicly about
> your
> >> actions and empty words of safety and inclusivity.
> >>
> >> Sincerely,
> >> Marie-Alice Mathis, vice chair of WMFr
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