My understanding is they target 10K articles, not 100K.

Cheers
Yaroslav

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:30 AM, WereSpielChequers <
werespielchequ...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Gnangarra
>
> I've heard bad things about the articles for creation process, but a
> minimum of either 1.5 kb  or 2,000 bytes of prose is a new one on me. Can
> you link to that part of the AFC rules? I have reread things such as
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Articles_for_creation/
> Reviewing_instructions and found one perfectly sensible comment about
> deleting single sentence "articles". But 1,000 bytes would be a jolly long
> sentence. AFC has its flaws, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone, but is
> it really as flawed as you assert?
>
> As for the women in red contest, you might want to read the rules, and if
> you have concerns there is a currently redlinked talkpage.
> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_
> talk:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/The_World_Contest/Rules&
> action=edit&redlink=1
>
> I've made a couple of bold tweaks to the competition rules myself, but they
> did already cover notability and of course copyvio. Though a contest aimed
> at existing editors is less likely to hit problems in those areas as an
> outreach editathon targeted at new editors - there we do need to explain
> our notability rules and sadly often teach people about copyright and
> plagiarism.
>
> As for criticising a project for aiming for 100,000 articles when they only
> have 4 judges and 108 participants, it is two weeks until it starts and
> they have a watchlist notice up to recruit more people either as
> participants or judges note
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_
> in_Red/The_World_Contest/Rules
> -* "If you want to help judge the contest or help out with running it
> please ensure that you add your name in the judges section on the main
> page"* I could understand at the end of a project having that sort of
> criticism if they had got ambitious but not tried to recruit enough
> participants. However at this stage such criticism is premature and
> probably misdirected. A more nuanced view would be to look at the end and
> check whether they succeeded in their objective and whether they achieved
> sufficient participation both of editors and judges. Criticising a project
> that doesn't start for another two weeks for having insufficient judges and
> participants when it currently in a major site wide recruitment drive for
> judges and participants seems premature to me.
>
> Alternatively one could look at the objective and ask whether creating
> 100,000 articles on women was sufficient, insufficient or excessive to deal
> with the known gender gap in our coverage. The 100,000 target looks about
> right to me and it will be interesting to see how much progress people can
> make on it in a one month contest, but if someone is uncomfortable about it
> it would be sensible to go through the figures and check if that is an
> appropriate target for the problem. Treating such an ambitious target as a
> problem without acknowledging that Wikipedia has coverage gaps on that
> scale comes across almost as denial of the problem.
>
>
>
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 22:02:50 +0800
> > From: Gnangarra <gnanga...@gmail.com>
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAD==kbLkFbP+MKzQ=wg4ApZXVqMyp1osM6tNL8i8==K-PL+ZCg@mail.
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> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > I cant believe this
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Women_in
> > _Red/The_World_Contest
> > has
> > got WMF funding, the idea of trying to create 100,000 stub articles on
> > english wikipedia without any thought to how it'll impact on the
> > community.
> >
> > I find it ironic that a competition is being funded to encourage current
> > contributors to do what we wont accept from new editors.  If a new editor
> > was to create an article it wouldnt pass through the Articles for
> Creation
> > process because its half the size of the minimum set there. Many of the
> > competition articles will just get tagged CSD - A1, A7, A9 even G2
> >
> > While there is a nice bot that will count the size of the prose, there is
> > no automated process for checking copyright violations, checking for
> > notability and most importantly checking for BLP with the aim of 100,000
> > the community will years to clean up the mess that is about to be
> created.
> >
> > ​we are 15 days from this disaster commencing​
> >
> > --
> > G
> > nangarra
> >
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Message: 2
> > Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 08:47:30 -0600
> > From: James Heilman <jmh...@gmail.com>
> > To: Wikimedia Mailing List <wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Women in red
> > Message-ID:
> >         <CAF1en7ULzbw+6Gf7c1=HNoFX-pRvM7A4FdYCfp9HusVk+3Kg8w@mail.
> > gmail.com>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
> >
> > Correction:
> >
> > There is a tool that automatically checks for copyright infringement.
> > It is called CopyPatrol
> >
> > https://tools.wmflabs.org/copypatrol/en
> >
> > James
> >
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