Is that still going on?

I'm against sexism and all for improving coverage of women on Wikipedia.
I've helped to encourage events toward that end, and they've turned out
pretty well. We now have quite a few more articles, for example, on women
involved as pioneers in outdoor sports and activities because of them.

But I'm unsure how asking the question "Is it wise to offer money in
exchange for creating large numbers of articles without consideration of
quality?" or "Will this effort have the intended result?" is sexist. The
same question would apply if the proposed articles were about Russian
literature or asteroids. It is not sexist to ask the question just because
of what the subject happens to be.

I think that needs to be discussed, not sidetracked by calling people
sexists. If people really were making sexist statements, I'd be all for
shutting that crap down. But I've seen not one such statement in this


On Oct 16, 2017 10:28 AM, "Robert Fernandez" <> wrote:

> So those who call out sexism are the real sexists, amirite?
> I am fed up with this double standard in the way we talk about these
> issues.  Some people are allowed to make broad, unsupported, sweeping
> generalizations about the motives and actions of others and that's
> considered just fine, but if you call them out in even the gentlest tones
> it's treated as some horrific personal attack, and censure and apologies
> are demanded.  We've culturally internalized sexism so much that even the
> way we talk about sexism is sexist.
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Vi to <> wrote:
> >
> >
> > But just a note: using the same behavior of phenomena you're trying to
> > contast is, per se, a clear defeat.
> > To be more clear, blind -because you obviously don't know *nothing* about
> > their backgrounds- vilification of other's opinions is, incidentally, one
> > the of the main instruments of "cultural" sexism.
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