Yes it's all on Meta. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Start.

JP

On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 3:21 PM Todd Allen <toddmal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Are those applications published anywhere? I'd be curious to see it. I'm
> not really familiar with the grant process.
>
> Todd
>
> On Oct 16, 2017 12:47 PM, "Jean-Philippe Béland" <jpbel...@wikimedia.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > My opinion is that such projects should be supported, we should encourage
> > 'be bold'. That being said, people planning projects at a large scale
> > should communicate with the concerned communities first. As such, the
> > concerns raised in this thread for example would have been raised during
> > the planning phase of that project and hopefully addressed. There is a
> > place in the application forms for grants for projects that asks to list
> > "Community Notification". The Grant Committee should look more closely at
> > that section and ensure that the communities have been notified before
> > granting any fund.
> >
> > JP
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 2:03 PM, Lodewijk <lodew...@effeietsanders.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I understand from the original email that the venue was chosen based on
> > the
> > > fact that it was WMF-funded as a project. I am guessing he's trying to
> > pull
> > > that leverage.
> > >
> > > The topic is more generic though: should we support projects that are
> > > considered by some to be a little rough on the edges, or should we only
> > > pick 'safe' projects that will land well with the community. And how
> much
> > > of 'be bold' can be applied to projects that operate at a somewhat
> larger
> > > scale.
> > >
> > > While this particular topic seems enwp specific, its theme isn't.
> > >
> > > Lodewijk
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Jean-Philippe Béland <
> > > jpbel...@wikimedia.ca> wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is so many threads on this list that are only about English
> > > Wikipedia
> > > > like it is the centre of the world... Why other communities are able
> to
> > > > keep their internal discussions internal and not this community?
> > > >
> > > > Jean-Philippe Béland
> > > > Vice President, Wikimedia Canada
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Pax Ahimsa Gethen <
> > > > list-wikime...@funcrunch.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The people whose opinion should most matter in determining whether
> a
> > > > > comment is sexist are women. Not men, and not non-binary
> > transmasculine
> > > > > people like myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > I support and echo Emily and Molly's earlier comments on this
> thread:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, in case it's not clear from my forwarding of
> Emily's/Keilana's
> > > > >> message, I endorse it completely and am glad she made her points.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I agree fully with Keegan and Sydney. I don't think the concerns
> > that
> > > > this
> > > > >> will be overtaken by bots are well-founded; that was planned for
> in
> > > the
> > > > >> document outlining the competition, and editors involved in this
> > > project
> > > > >> will be subject to all expectations of normal editors (including
> not
> > > > >> mass-producing poor-quality content).
> > > > >>
> > > > >> As for Keegan's original post, there is a major difference between
> > > > >> describing an email as sexist versus labeling the sender as a
> > sexist.
> > > I
> > > > >> believe Keegan meant the former, and I'm not sure anything he's
> said
> > > can
> > > > >> be
> > > > >> described as an attack on the sender so much as a valid criticism
> of
> > > > poor
> > > > >> wording.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> – Molly (GorillaWarfare)
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 11:44 PM, GorillaWarfare
> > > > <gorillawarfarewikipedia@
> > > > >> gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Emily (User:Keilana) is having some trouble getting mails through
> to
> > > > this
> > > > >> list, so I'm forwarding this on her behalf in case it's an issue
> > with
> > > > her
> > > > >> email address.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> "This is some sexist bullshit. You really think we can't handle
> some
> > > > >> stubs? And do you really, really think that people won't try to
> AFD
> > > > >> everything that comes out of this contest as it is?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm sick and tired of this idea that we have to hold shit about
> > women
> > > > to a
> > > > >> higher standard than literally anything else. The encyclopedia
> isn't
> > > > going
> > > > >> to break because, god forbid, some inexperienced newbies write a
> > bunch
> > > > of
> > > > >> stubs.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> And so what if people think we're paying lip service to women?
> It's
> > > > better
> > > > >> than being seen as being actively hostile to women, which, as I
> > > > shouldn't
> > > > >> have to remind you, is our reputation as it currently stands."
> > > > >>
> > > > >> – Molly (GorillaWarfare)
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > > - Pax aka Funcrunch
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 10/16/17 10:11 AM, Todd Allen wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Is that still going on?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I'm against sexism and all for improving coverage of women on
> > > Wikipedia.
> > > > >> I've helped to encourage events toward that end, and they've
> turned
> > > out
> > > > >> pretty well. We now have quite a few more articles, for example,
> on
> > > > women
> > > > >> involved as pioneers in outdoor sports and activities because of
> > them.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> But I'm unsure how asking the question "Is it wise to offer money
> in
> > > > >> exchange for creating large numbers of articles without
> > consideration
> > > of
> > > > >> quality?" or "Will this effort have the intended result?" is
> sexist.
> > > The
> > > > >> same question would apply if the proposed articles were about
> > Russian
> > > > >> literature or asteroids. It is not sexist to ask the question just
> > > > because
> > > > >> of what the subject happens to be.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I think that needs to be discussed, not sidetracked by calling
> > people
> > > > >> sexists. If people really were making sexist statements, I'd be
> all
> > > for
> > > > >> shutting that crap down. But I've seen not one such statement in
> > this
> > > > >> thread.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Todd
> > > > >>
> > > > >> On Oct 16, 2017 10:28 AM, "Robert Fernandez" <
> > wikigamal...@gmail.com>
> > > > >> wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> So those who call out sexism are the real sexists, amirite?
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> I am fed up with this double standard in the way we talk about
> > these
> > > > >>> issues.  Some people are allowed to make broad, unsupported,
> > sweeping
> > > > >>> generalizations about the motives and actions of others and
> that's
> > > > >>> considered just fine, but if you call them out in even the
> gentlest
> > > > tones
> > > > >>> it's treated as some horrific personal attack, and censure and
> > > > apologies
> > > > >>> are demanded.  We've culturally internalized sexism so much that
> > even
> > > > the
> > > > >>> way we talk about sexism is sexist.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 11:28 AM, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>> But just a note: using the same behavior of phenomena you're
> > trying
> > > to
> > > > >>>> contast is, per se, a clear defeat.
> > > > >>>> To be more clear, blind -because you obviously don't know
> > *nothing*
> > > > >>>> about
> > > > >>>> their backgrounds- vilification of other's opinions is,
> > > incidentally,
> > > > >>>> one
> > > > >>>> the of the main instruments of "cultural" sexism.
> > > > >>>>
> > > > >>>
> > > > > --
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> > > Pronouns:
> > > > > they/them/their
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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