This is a very complex long-term "war" which, in my experience, never ends in a "reconciliation".
Also, honestly, I don't think how can this comply with wikiversity mission. Vito <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Mail priva di virus. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> 2017-11-06 15:30 GMT+01:00 mathieu stumpf guntz < psychosl...@culture-libre.org>: > Thank Chico and Henrique for your reports and related links. > > I encourage both of you to document further this topic. But as the mailing > list format might quickly turn it into a flameware, to avoid list > moderators some disagreeable work, you could preferably find more suited > place to develop your points. Punctual feedback on the list to signal > creation or update of additional external resources is welcome, as far as > I'm concerned. > > You might, inter alia, use wikimedia-timeline to generate an overview > of main statements you are claiming, each linked to related resources which > let reader deepen their inquiry on the topic if they have interest and > resources to do so. > > If you are interested to turn that in a research project as objective as > you might be able to create, I also encourage you to open a research > project on a Wikiversity instance, after a check of how such a project > might be conducted on the selected instance. You might also like to create > and conduct some interviews and publish them on Wikinews. > > I hope that the difficult situation you are passing through will end up in > the most contributive, positive and placid possible resolution. > > Kind regards, > mathieu > >  https://github.com/molly/wikimedia-timeline > > > > Le 06/11/2017 à 11:59, Chico Venancio a écrit : > >> Ended up with out the links, sorry: >> http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/wikibrasil.org.html >> https://www.whois.com/whois/220.127.116.11 >> http://www.planalto.gov.br/ccivil_03/leis/L9610.htm#art24 >> >> Chico Venancio >> >> 2017-11-06 7:53 GMT-03:00 Chico Venancio <chicocvenan...@gmail.com>: >> >> To all on the list, *this is characterization is filled with obvious >>> lies.* >>> >>> The DMCA was filed a month ago simply *DID NOT TAKE the site down*. >>> Henrique quickly took down the article offending copyright and Godaddy >>> allowed it to continue to be hosted. >>> >>> Henrique is a paid contractor of the user group Wiki Education Brazil >>> that >>> has repeatedly harassed several members of our user group (Joalpe and >>> myself included). And is probably here acting as a Meatpuppet of another >>> user who is under an Office action interaction ban to interact with >>> either >>> myself or João. >>> >>> That he goes on an international platform to call on the Dean of the >>> university were João works is egregious harassment and WMF should not >>> only >>> impose severe sanctions, but review both the grant and affiliation >>> agreements with the "user group" were this comes from. >>> >>> On the merits, after the event the organizer harassed several of our >>> members, and to me it is completely understandable that João does not >>> want >>> his name attached to an event that harassed him and others. There was on >>> more than one occasion hints of physical violence from a member of Wiki >>> Education Brazil, and at one point those hints came to level of actually >>> using the words "beating" in reference to another member of our user >>> group, >>> Teles, who was also called a famous Wikipedia despot, that he needed >>> psychiatric attention, and that he needed to find a boyfriend on a public >>> facebook thread. >>> >>> The CC-BY 3.0 Henrique alleges to have on the article is clearly invalid >>> for several reasons, one being he did not have one from the co-authors of >>> the work. Even if he did, Brazilian law supersedes it and clearly states >>> that the author has the inalienable moral right to revoke any license and >>> remove from circulation in any form when the use represents an affront to >>> his image or reputation. That Henrique confesses that he, and the user >>> banned from interacting with myself or Joalpe, knew that license was not >>> given by João and that an explicit revocation was placed onwiki, only >>> makes >>> the copyright violation willful and demonstrates that no assumption of >>> good >>> faith can be reasonably made. This was an explicit provocation from the >>> "User Group" Wiki Education Brazil to João. >>> >>> Best to all on the Wikimedia Movement, >>> >>> Hoping for a movement with less tolerance for harassment, >>> >>> Chico Venancio (User:Chicocvenancio) >>> >>> 2017-11-06 1:08 GMT-03:00 Henrique de Andrade < >>> henriquedeandr...@gmail.com >>> >>>> : >>>> Friends, it took me a month to join forces and get the courage to write >>>> the >>>> story below. >>>> >>>> The Wiki Education Brazil user group has had its website  shutted >>>> down >>>> due to an attack using the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA), and >>>> the >>>> most shocking of this story is that the legal threat was made by a >>>> "member" >>>> of the Wikimedia community: Mr. João Alexandre Peschanski, who uses the >>>> username Joalpe. >>>> >>>> My unreal saga began on October 7th when I received an email informing >>>> me >>>> that the WMF Support and Safety team had received a complaint from >>>> Joalpe >>>> that his copyright was being violated by the publication on the I >>>> CCBWIKI >>>> (I Brazilian Scientific Congress of Wikipedia) website of a paper which >>>> he >>>> is a co-author. >>>> >>>> I thought this situation was very strange and I imagined it was a >>>> misunderstanding. I promptly in good faith emailed Joalpe, copying WMF >>>> team, trying to figure out what could have led to this misleading >>>> interpretation that we were committing a copyright infringement. In the >>>> email I reminded him that he knows several members of the Wiki Edu >>>> Brazil >>>> group and that he could communicate directly with us if he was bothered >>>> with something and that, if he wanted to, I could remove from the site >>>> the >>>> work of which he is a co-author, even though it is on the CC-BY 3.0 >>>> license. >>>> >>>> To my surprise I never received a reply from Joalpe. Instead, two days >>>> after my contact arrives a message from GoDaddy (company where the Wiki >>>> Edu >>>> Brasil’s site is hosted in the United States) informing that we have >>>> received a "complete DMCA complaint", made by the Center for Research, >>>> Innovation and Diffusion in Neuromamatics of the University of São Paulo >>>> (CEPID NeuroMat - USP), signed by João Alexandre Peschanski. >>>> >>>> In this complaint he alleges that in the page that I made with the texts >>>> sent to the I CCBWIKI there would be a text of which he is one of the >>>> authors and that he would have revoked our authorization to publish it, >>>> accuses us of not giving the due credits in the work and implies that we >>>> would have copied the content from another conference, prior to CCBWIKI, >>>> where it would have been originally published. >>>> >>>> I lack words to describe my revolt at such absurd lies. First: not only >>>> was >>>> the authorization not revoked but also a Creative Commons publication >>>> could >>>> not have its permission revoked for sharing. Secondly, in fact his name >>>> did >>>> not appear on the page listing the papers, because the main author of >>>> the >>>> article did not register it correctly in the system, but when clicking >>>> on >>>> the file his name was in the credits correctly. Third: the published >>>> content was exactly the one sent by the author David Fernando Levon >>>> Alves >>>> on August 29, 2016, and until the current unfortunate legal threat I did >>>> not even know of the existence of Intercom conference, where I now know >>>> that the same paper had been presented in September 9th. >>>> >>>> And Joalpe knows all about it! Even on page that he links in his >>>> complaint saying that is proof of him having revoked our authorization >>>> for >>>> publication, he clearly says that he disallows the publication of the >>>> paper >>>> his is the main author, and that he would talk to the other author to >>>> propose withdrawing the paper in question, and the chair of the event >>>> promptly replied indicating that the dialogue should continue through >>>> the >>>> conference management system (it is worth noting that he said he would >>>> like >>>> to withdraw his work because he has never seen an academic conference >>>> that >>>> does not pay for the transfer and accommodations for all, an argument >>>> that >>>> does not make any sense to anyone that minimally knows the reality of >>>> Brazilian academy). >>>> >>>> Still bewildered by this nonsense I had to decide what to do. The DMCA >>>> notice gave us two options: either to remove the illegally posted file >>>> or >>>> to contest the complaint. Thinking about justice, we would obviously opt >>>> for the second option because we were not doing anything illegal. But >>>> within the cruel logic of the DMCA, we were given an absurd 24-hour >>>> deadline to send a response and our page was already off. It is worth >>>> mentioning that at that moment our host removed all the pages in the >>>> domain >>>> wikibrasil.org, and not just the page with the annals of the previous >>>> conference. In this way, projects such as IWSC and WLM that were in key >>>> moments of their execution were also unavailable to users. So, to the >>>> very >>>> annoyance we had to remove the file (as if we were guilty!) In order to >>>> request that the sites be republished. >>>> >>>> Yet stunned by this, I asked for help from the WMF’s Trust & Safety and >>>> the >>>> Legal Team. Both were sympathetic, but the WMF's legal support policies >>>> provide support only for problems regarding content hosted on the >>>> foundation's servers, and since that was not the case, I could not >>>> receive >>>> formal legal support. Unsure, fearing the possible legal implications of >>>> the complaint, and without knowing how to defend myself I spoke with >>>> groups >>>> of free culture and defense of freedom of expression and concluded that >>>> the >>>> best way to defend myself would be to publicize the ongoing persecution. >>>> >>>> The days that followed were very difficult for me. Whenever I had to >>>> deal >>>> with any wiki subject I was taken by a feeling of revolt and could not >>>> do >>>> anything. I spent hours trying to write these words but I just couldn’t >>>> do >>>> it. Having to face a legal threat through the DMCA may already be >>>> something >>>> to wrap the stomach itself, but having to do it knowing that who >>>> denounces >>>> know he is lying, says himself a defender of free culture and is even a >>>> member of the Wikimedia community is unbelievably revolting! >>>> >>>> We all know that wikis communities are not a bed of roses and I have >>>> several times left and I stopped editing because of the bullying done by >>>> users like him. But this time I won’t shut up! The destructive behavior >>>> of >>>> this person has escalated in a way that is forcing me to spend all my >>>> time >>>> studying United States copyright law to defend myself from something I >>>> did >>>> not do, and he knows it well. This user used his influence to move the >>>> largest university in Latin America into an international legal threat >>>> against the movement he claims to be a part of. We need to stop it! >>>> >>>> For those who do not know this user, it is worth pointing out that he >>>> leads >>>> a users group, and receives funding from WMF to conduct outreach >>>> activities. I repeat: This person who uses the DMCA to legally threaten >>>> members of the Wikimedia community is receiving money from our movement >>>> to >>>> fund their projects. We can not accept this anymore! Joao Alexandre >>>> Peschanski (a.k.a. Joalpe) should be boycotted in every possible way by >>>> the >>>> Wikimedia movement. A copyright troll should never receive grants, be >>>> accepted in our spaces and have the right to speak on behalf of our >>>> community! >>>> >>>> In addition to measures within the Wikimedia community I also ask for >>>> your >>>> support to help with my defense of Joalpe's attack on the legal world. I >>>> call upon all advocates of free culture, freedom of knowledge and the >>>> Wikimedia movement to endorse the following petition , addressed to >>>> the >>>> University of São Paulo, demanding that it immediately withdraw the >>>> complaint of violation to the DMCA made against the Wiki Educação Brasil >>>> group, and that it immediately stops pursuing free-culture movements in >>>> Brazil and in the world: >>>> https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente- >>>> de-usar-a-justiça-americana-para-tirar-site-wiki-brasil-do-ar >>>> <https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente- >>>> de-usar-a-justi> >>>> >>>> I publish this letter still frightened, but already without fear and >>>> confident that united we will overcome one more attack that threatens >>>> not >>>> only the Wikimedia movement, but the whole culture of free knowledge. >>>> >>>> "Imagine a world in which every person on the planet has free access to >>>> the >>>> sum of all human knowledge. That is what we are doing." Jimbo Wales >>>> >>>> Sincerely, >>>> >>>> Henrique de Andrade (User: HenriqueCrang) >>>> >>>>  http://wikibrasil.org >>>> >>>>  >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki_Education_Brazil/ >>>> Events/Congresso_Científico_Brasileiro_da_Wikipédia/2016# >>>> Tr.C3.AAs_d.C3.BAvidas >>>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wiki_Education_Brazil/ >>>> Events/Congresso_Cient> >>>> >>>>  >>>> https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente- >>>> de-usar-a-justiça-americana-para-tirar-site-wiki-brasil-do-ar >>>> <https://www.change.org/p/reitor-da-usp-pare-imediatamente- >>>> de-usar-a-justi> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >>>> i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >>>> i/Wikimedia-l >>>> New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >> i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik >> i/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wik > i/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>