Good evening Émeric, good evening all.

Allow me to reply. Oh wait, that's right, I don't need you to allow the
publication of emails on this mailing list - this sure comes as a change,
and a welcome one too !

I won't be speaking of any member of the community, whether volunteer or
employee, it is not the purpose of this email.

You shockingly ask of a union representative the identities of other
unionized workers. It may come as a surprise to you, but, at least in
France, whether one is unionized or not is part of their private life, and
should in no circumstance be divulged by anyone other than themselves,
should they feel the desire to. That desire can't be coerced, and nobody
should rob someone else of their private life or its divulgation.
Aside from that, *in the unlikely event* the union section comprises a
single person, or roughly 10% of all Wikimédia France employees, that would
still be a feat, and more than the national average of about 5% in the
private sector and just under 10% overall ; but union sections MUST (RFC
2119) be composed of at least two people, per article L2142-1 of french
Labour Law. So there's at least two employees in that section, which is at
least 20% (give or take), way above the national average.

Lastly, I'd like to address your accusations of lying.
It seems to me that the only answer you ever provide to any criticism is
that it's all a lie. In other words, you're quick to slap everyone with
Kellyanne Conway's motto, "fake news", but you lack her talent and, as
she's had dips on it, the element of surprise.
I've faced them before myself, when I tried to explain to the rest of the
members an email YOU sent to discussions@, the non-public mailing list of
Wikimédia France, and its subtext. Specifically, the email I sent on May
6th was rejected, and I was told on May 7th by a representative of the
Board of Trustees (of which you were chairman) it was all a "web of
ravings" ("marasme de spéculations") that was based on former members' side
of the story — former members which, by the way, I hadn't had any
meaningful contact in a few years — ; when in fact, it was solely based on
YOUR version of the story, using basic reasoning skills.
As it turns out, and as a few people can attest, a good amount of what I "
*raved*" in my email turned out to not just be generally true, but rather
accurate as well.
So forgive me to say, but I feel you lack proper footing to decide on who's
lying and who's not.

Really, the whole story is, for lack of a better word, and even though
Donald Trump has already used it, "sad" ; and it would be best for the
former Board of Trustees, if not to apologize to the people involved, to at
least lay low about it.

Happy Thanksgiving dinner to the ones who have it, and happy
nondenominational evening to the ones who don't.

Member of WMFr, despite the odds

2017-11-23 20:54 GMT+01:00 Emeric Vallespi <>:

> Sylvain,
> I have to answer to your email where you’re especially lying.
> You say that you’re writing on behalf of a union section of the employees
> of Wikimedia France but I’m personally curious to know the weight of this
> union section. My question is actually: who else is represented by your
> email, if not yourself?
> Moreover, you’re saying that you received a « warning » (?) because you
> had a girlfriend. Is it serious?
> Your employer asked you to distinguish professional time and personal
> time. Indeed, you were reminded that you had to dedicate your work hours to
> the missions that were devoted to you and not to solve problems related to
> your personal life, especially if it interferes with organization’s
> activities and governance. It is also you who came, on your own, to tell us
> about the complexity of your personal and relationship situation in order
> to benefit of professional arrangements. The direction never looked for,
> nor asked, any information on this subject.
> You’re mentioning the cancellation of the letter. Since, to my knowledge,
> no sanction has been filed to your HR record, I do not really see what have
> been canceled.
> I can understand that supporting your new board of trustees, involved in
> the governance issues and in the criminal complaints filed is critical to
> show your loyalty.
> Do you know how impatient am I to discover your next fable? I guess the
> only one never mentioned yet is maybe about a murder or something (although
> a streetfight scenario has already been invented x’D).
> I think it was important to re-explain all those points so that the
> community, which is - again - unnecessarily taken as witness, is not
> deceived by a scenario built from scratch.
> Again, to discredit the movement by such erroneous but public accusations
> still shows that only personal interests and vainness matter in this
> conflict with some people.
> For months, several lies have been told by different people. Because the
> Wikimedia community protect itself and its members by harassing and
> defaming people who question the probity and integrity of some of its
> members doesn’t make of this lies the truth.
> Best regards to all of you,
> --
> Emeric Vallespi
> > On 22 Nov 2017, at 13:37, Sylvain Boissel <>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Katherine,
> >
> > 2017-10-19 23:19 GMT+02:00 Katherine Maher <>:
> >
> >> [...]
> >
> >> We are committed to working with the new Wikimédia France conseil
> >> d’administration (governing board) to support the French community as
> they
> >> work to address and resolve these and other outstanding issues. The
> >> Wikimedia Foundation and the new leadership of Wikimédia France are
> already
> >> cooperating to address the governance-related concerns raised by the
> >> volunteer Funds Dissemination Committee in the first half of 2017. As
> part
> >> of this work, we have encouraged them to review how they will
> independently
> >> handle claims of harassment in the future. The Wikimedia Foundation and
> >> Wikimédia France share a common goal: a healthy, welcoming, respectful,
> >> inclusive Wikimedia community in France.
> >>
> >> I know I am not alone in my dismay for how these events have unfolded.
> Many
> >> dedicated, good-faith members of the French community, including current
> >> community members and present and former Wikimédia France board and
> staff
> >> members, have experienced distress and anxiety over recent months. Those
> >> outside of the community have watched with dismay as our peers and
> friends
> >> have found themselves disoriented, distressed, alienated, or at odds
> with
> >> one another. And yet we also know that many in France now feel a renewed
> >> sense of purpose for building the healthy and welcoming community we all
> >> desire.
> >
> > As the representative of the local branch of the labor union
> > ASSO-Solidaires at Wikimédia France, I wanted to thank you and the WMF
> > staff members who took part in the site visit in Paris in July  (namely
> > Katy Love, Winifred Olliff, Stephen Laporte and James Baldwin) for
> hearing
> > the distress of the staff members at a time when Wikimédia France's board
> > plainly refused to discuss with the staff.
> >
> > I also wanted to confirm that things are getting better with the new
> board
> > elected in September.
> >
> > I cannot speak about what my coworkers went through without asking them
> > first, but I can share an example from my own story: in February, I was
> > issued a « rappel à l'ordre » (warning) by the former direction and
> > board, accusing
> > me of disloyalty to the chapter because I had a girlfriend. It was
> > cancelled this month by the new board, and this is a huge relief to me.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Sylvain.
> >
> > --
> > *Sylvain Boissel*
> > Délégué du personnel et Responsable de la section syndicale
> ASSO-Solidaires
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