Extremely sad news. I can't comment on the fairness but it does seem like
the best decision has been taken.


Regards,

Isaac

On Apr 8, 2018 9:52 PM, "Lucas Teles" <telesw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That’s very unexpected. I actually have been trying to talk with WMF plenty
> of times and waiting and waiting for a word from you. Though you probably
> received lots of emails from me and others, I don’t think I have a single
> email from you guys about this in my inbox
>
> I have literally implored you to provide me and answer for a few cases
> opened has been a while in order to have any instruction or advice on how
> to act in many situations. But that never came.
>
> This is probably the first time I hear from you, Kirill, and I respectfully
> disagree that one can consider that you did well on it. You just let it all
> happen and watched this escalate without any help. We were working on our
> mistakes, we were building our code of conduct, accepted mediation with
> Millos and others, but the feeling is that we were totally alone on that.
> Sadly, your actions were always directed to both groups as if you were
> avoiding to take any side or decision, like you are doing now, taking a
> general action and not addressing any issue specifically.
>
> I hope this change is for the best, but also hope that you can recognize
> your own mistakes here as others from WMF did. Just like I don’t think we
> did well every single moment and try to learn from it, you can’t really
> believe that you did a good job here. If you do (and that is the impression
> we have from your message), that is worrying. Then again, I hear from you,
> after so much time of silence and what I hear is punishment. You can’t
> probably think that you are being any educational on the matter. Sorry if
> there is any harsh word above, but that is sincerely unintentional.
>
> Have a good day.
>
> Teles
>
>
> Em dom, 8 de abr de 2018 às 16:32, Vi to <vituzzu.w...@gmail.com>
> escreveu:
>
> > Sad outcome though fair, reasonable and expected.
> > I hope some new group will arise from these ruins.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > 2018-04-08 20:19 GMT+02:00 Kirill Lokshin <kirill.loks...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > Recognition as a Wikimedia movement affiliate — a chapter, thematic
> > > organization, or user group — is a privilege that allows an independent
> > > group to officially use the Wikimedia trademarks to further the
> Wikimedia
> > > mission. To receive and maintain their status as recognized Wikimedia
> > > affiliates, groups are required to comply with certain requirements,
> > which
> > > are identified in each group's individual chapter, thematic
> organization,
> > > or user group agreement.  In particular, the terms of the Wikimedia
> User
> > > Group Agreement and Code of Conduct prohibit user groups from engaging
> in
> > > activity that poses significant risk to other Wikimedia organizations
> or
> > > Wikimedia projects.
> > >
> > > As many of you doubtlessly know, the two Wikimedia user groups based in
> > > Brazil — Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil and Wiki Education
> Brazil
> > —
> > > have been engaged in a severe and protracted conflict, which has
> resulted
> > > in significant harm to past, ongoing, and planned Wikimedia movement
> > > activities in Brazil.  As all reasonable attempts to resolve the
> conflict
> > > have failed, the Affiliations Committee is left with no choice but to
> > > withdraw the groups' recognition as Wikimedia affiliates.
> > >
> > > Consequently, the recognition of Wikimedia Community User Group Brasil
> > and
> > > Wiki Education Brazil as Wikimedia user groups has been revoked, and
> the
> > > Wikimedia Foundation's legal department has been requested to formally
> > > terminate their respective user group agreements as soon as
> practicable.
> > > Further, the specific individuals who served as the primary contacts
> for
> > > these user groups will be prohibited from serving as primary contacts
> for
> > > any user group application or existing user group for a period of one
> > year.
> > >
> > > The Affiliations Committee recognizes that this is an unprecedented and
> > > unfortunate development. However, we hope that this step will allow the
> > > Wikimedia community in Brazil to work towards a new organizational
> > > structure and model that will better serve the needs of movement
> > > participants and stakeholders in the country.
> > >
> > > Any questions regarding this matter should be addressed directly to the
> > > Affiliations Committee.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kirill Lokshin
> > > Chair, Affiliations Committee
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