Dear all, Here is the link to another (and this time the last) conference call for the Movement Strategy Process Q&A [1] starting in *1.5 hours*. We will discuss the call for applications [2] and the Working Group model in general. [1] https://meet.google.com/xac-ecsx-cuv [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Apply
I am really thankful for all the feedback I have already received and am happy to answer your further questions. Looking forward to seeing and discussing strategy with some of you soon! Best regards, On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 8:00 PM Kaarel Vaidla <kvai...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > Dear all, > > Here is the link to the conference call for the Movement Strategy Process > Q&A [1] starting in 2 hours. > [1] https://meet.google.com/oig-trht-hnd > > Looking forward to an interesting discussion and feedback! > Kaarel > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 7:39 PM Kaarel Vaidla <kvai...@wikimedia.org> > wrote: > >> (reposting update for readability, as something went wrong with >> formatting last time) >> >> Dear Wikimedians, >> >> As I have learned that in some groups and communities there are ongoing >> discussions regarding participation in the Working Groups and we also >> need to make further efforts to ensure a more diverse pool of applicants, >> we are extending the call for Working Groups [1] by one week, new >> deadline being *July 2, 2018*. >> >> I am also taking the time to organize Q&A sessions about the Movement >> Strategy Process and the Working Group model. I am sharing a Doodle link >> with you, where you can sign up for any of the offered sessions next >> week on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday [2}. >> >> Thanks to those of you who have already applied!Have a great weekend! >> Kaarel >> >> [1] >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Apply >> [2] https://doodle.com/poll/8fr7a7giw9n4cg5n >> >> >> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 6:37 PM Kaarel Vaidla <kvai...@wikimedia.org> >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> *Dear Wikimedians,As I have learned that in some groups and communities >>> there are ongoing discussions regarding participation in the Working Groups >>> and we also need to make further efforts to ensure a more diverse pool of >>> applicants, we are extending the call for Working Groups [1] by one week, >>> new deadline being *July 2, 2018*.I am also taking the time to organize Q&A >>> sessions about the Movement Strategy Process and the Working Group model. I >>> am sharing a Doodle link with you, where you can sign up for any of the >>> offered sessions next week on Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday [2}.Thanks to >>> those of you who have already applied!Have a great weekend!Kaarel[1] >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Apply >>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Apply>[2] >>> https://doodle.com/poll/8fr7a7giw9n4cg5n >>> <https://doodle.com/poll/8fr7a7giw9n4cg5n>* >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 3:22 AM Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Kaarel, >>>> Thank you for following up. >>>> Regarding product and technology, I agree that they are closely >>>> interrelated, but I remain concerned about assigning such a broad scope of >>>> responsibilities to a single WG, and about the potential overlap of the WG >>>> with the existing TechCom and the Platform Evaluation Initiative. I would >>>> like to hear thoughts from Toby and/or Victoria about these issues, perhaps >>>> on the talk page of the WG. >>>> I am glad that further thought is being given to the time commitment to >>>> the WGs. I hope to discuss this further with you, perhaps in a Hangouts >>>> meeting next week. >>>> Thank you for your responsiveness to input. >>>> Pine >>>> ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) >>>> >>>> -------- Original message --------From: Kaarel Vaidla < >>>> kvai...@wikimedia.org> Date: 6/18/18 1:34 PM (GMT-08:00) To: >>>> wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Movement >>>> Strategy: Open Call for Working Group >>>> members >>>> Dear Pine, >>>> >>>> Product & Technology are closely interrelated themes. We do not have a >>>> product without technology and technology is developed according to our >>>> product vision & design. The Working Group will not duplicate the >>>> discussions, but ensure that different existing processes feed into each >>>> other. In addition to that, we will work closely with Wikimedia >>>> Foundation >>>> Product and Technology departments to ensure the value of Working Group >>>> conversations. >>>> >>>> The question regarding time commitment is valid and we are happy to >>>> discuss >>>> it with people interested in participating in the Working Groups. We >>>> want >>>> everyone to be realistic about the extent of work ahead of us, but also >>>> need diversity of perspectives in the Working Groups to have meaningful >>>> conversations and a successful process. We have now specified the >>>> language >>>> to expectation of “*an average* of 5 hours per week” (as Lodewijk has >>>> already noted), which is more in line with what we have in mind. >>>> >>>> It is also possible to state in the application form what is the working >>>> time that one can commit to the working groups and it can be less than 5 >>>> hours. We can then note the interest as well as background and decide >>>> with >>>> the Steering Committee about the options of including these people in >>>> the >>>> workstreams. Also Working Groups will be working in the open and there >>>> will >>>> be feedback cycles for including voices from the wider movement and >>>> perspectives that are not represented in the Working Groups. >>>> >>>> Process budget is out of my scope of work, but your question has been >>>> forwarded to the relevant people. >>>> >>>> Have a good continuation to your week! >>>> Kaarel >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 3:29 AM Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> > Hi Kaarel, >>>> > >>>> > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:00 PM, Kaarel Vaidla <kvai...@wikimedia.org >>>> > >>>> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Dear Pine and Lodewijk, >>>> > > >>>> > > Thank you for sharing your thoughts and feedback. I would like to >>>> comment >>>> > > on some of your concerns in my role as the Process Architect. >>>> > > >>>> > > The scope for all groups has been defined in quite a broad way, >>>> mainly to >>>> > > keep the level of conversations high and mitigate the risk of too >>>> much >>>> > time >>>> > > being spent on details and tactical issues. For the Technology & >>>> Product >>>> > > group for example, we think that there are more benefits in >>>> connecting >>>> > them >>>> > > than separating people with expertise and connections within both >>>> areas. >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > I concede that I know much less about MediaWiki than some of the >>>> engineers >>>> > who have been here for years, but I think that I know enough to say >>>> that >>>> > the scope of work for the Product and Technology group looks >>>> ambitious and >>>> > could be segmented into two or more WGs with more specific scopes that >>>> > could coordinate their work when necessary. Perhaps you could share, >>>> here >>>> > or on the talk page >>>> > < >>>> > >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Working_Groups/Product_%26_Technology >>>> > >, >>>> > your analysis that led you to conclude that a single working group is >>>> the >>>> > best way to go for the Product & Technology group. Also, please >>>> explain how >>>> > you anticipate that the group will sync its efforts with TechCom and >>>> the >>>> > Platform Evolution initiative, so as to avoid confusion and >>>> duplication of >>>> > effort. If someone like Victoria would like to comment here or on the >>>> talk >>>> > page, I'd be glad to hear their perspective. I think that it would be >>>> good >>>> > to get clarity on these issues early in the process. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > We are indeed looking for high commitment in the Working Groups as >>>> we >>>> > would >>>> > > like the participants to be well informed and effective in the >>>> > > conversations. Working Group members will not only be participating >>>> in >>>> > > discussion meetings, but reading through existing materials, >>>> research and >>>> > > preparing for the meetings. In addition to that, we expect some >>>> time to >>>> > go >>>> > > to contextualizing these materials and carrying the conversations >>>> from >>>> > the >>>> > > Working Groups into their “home” groups and communities – and vice >>>> versa. >>>> > > This takes time and we want to be clear about it, as to avoid >>>> Working >>>> > Group >>>> > > dropout, burnout and ensure the presence of the diverse perspectives >>>> > > throughout the process. >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > I am glad that you are being clear about your goals. However, I think >>>> that >>>> > they will limit the diversity of participants to people who think >>>> that they >>>> > will have lots of available volunteer time for nine months and/or are >>>> > willing to divert 5+ hours per week from other valuable volunteer >>>> > activities. I think that this goal is inadvisable for the sake of the >>>> > diversity of the WGs and also because of the potential diversion of >>>> > significant volunteer hours from other valuable activities. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > For both volunteers and staff members it will mean prioritizing. >>>> That is >>>> > > the reason we are encouraging discussions inside your communities, >>>> > groups, >>>> > > collaboratives and organizations to decide who are the best >>>> > representatives >>>> > > of your perspectives and expertise. For many organizations and >>>> groups, >>>> > the >>>> > > coming year will be a transition year, with time set aside for >>>> strategic >>>> > > planning and a redistribution of responsibilities within the >>>> organization >>>> > > or group. As to individuals - it is of course up to them to decide >>>> what >>>> > > they can manage and not and what are the priorities in their >>>> > contributions. >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > Unfortunately, at this point, I am not going to recommend that most >>>> people >>>> > participate in these WGs because I feel that the time commitment that >>>> you >>>> > are requesting is excessive. Of course, volunteers are free to make >>>> their >>>> > own choices, but volunteering for WGs is not a course of action that >>>> I am >>>> > likely to recommend to most people. I am not trying to undermine your >>>> good >>>> > intentions, but I think that you are requesting far too much and that >>>> you >>>> > would be more successful in encouraging diverse participation if your >>>> > requests for volunteers' time was more modest. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > > >>>> > > Thank you so much for the feedback targeted towards ensuring clarity >>>> > around >>>> > > the process and some of the specific points regarding participation >>>> in >>>> > the >>>> > > Working Groups. >>>> > > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Again, I appreciate your clarifying your expectations, although I >>>> would >>>> > encourage you to revise them. >>>> > >>>> > Also, please respond to my question about the budget for this phase >>>> of the >>>> > strategy process that I made in my previous email. I would hope that >>>> WMF >>>> > made a detailed budget for this phase of the strategy, and as with >>>> other >>>> > strategy documents I would hope that it would be published. >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Pine >>>> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) >>>> > _______________________________________________ >>>> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l >>>> , >>>> > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> *Kaarel Vaidla* >>>> Process Architect for >>>> Wikimedia Movement Strategy >>>> 2030.wikimedia.org >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>>> New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org >>>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>>> <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> *Kaarel Vaidla* >>> Process Architect for >>> Wikimedia Movement Strategy >>> 2030.wikimedia.org >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Kaarel Vaidla* >> Process Architect for >> Wikimedia Movement Strategy >> 2030.wikimedia.org >> > > > -- > *Kaarel Vaidla* > Process Architect for > Wikimedia Movement Strategy > 2030.wikimedia.org > -- *Kaarel Vaidla* Process Architect for Wikimedia Movement Strategy 2030.wikimedia.org _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
