+1 On 22 July 2018 at 10:02, Andrea Zanni <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all, > I'll ask forgiveness in advance for starting a probable flame. > > I support WMIL stance: equity is absolutely within our Wikimedia > values, and supporting LGBTQ rights is always a good thing. > > But I cannot help but see the enormity of omission here: the Israeli > government just passed a law proclaming Israel a "Jewish" > nation-state¹, and it's bombing for the n-th time Gaza, where over 1 > million people are sieged. > > It saddens me a bit that WMIL is getting political, stepping "outside" > our wiki box for a good but still controversial topic, with a minor > impact, while major things are happening. Purely in terms of numbers > the scale of the latter are huge: the scale of the first much smaller. > I see a double standard (Jewish LGBQTs important; Arab-Israelis non > important) which is directly against the equity we we're talking about > in the first place. > > Again, sorry, > but I couldn't shut up this time. > > Aubrey > > ¹ https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/19/world/middleeast/israel- > law-jews-arabic.html > > On 7/21/18, Chris Keating <[email protected]> wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 10:23 AM Shlomi Fish <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Itzik, > >> > >> > >> I do not oppose the LGBT movement, but please explain how an official > >> support > >> of that falls under the global Wikimedia project's mission, and does not > >> dilute our policy of avoiding having a stance on issues that are > unrelated > >> to > >> it? > > > > I mean... yeah. > > > > As an LGBT Wikimedian I entirely support changing this law, and I can > > completely understand staff members wanting to take part in the > > demonstrations, and the organisation wanting to support them in doing > > that. > > > > But I really don't see why Wikimedia Israel should formally involve > > itself in a general social-policy issue that's nothing specifically to > > do with our mission. We need to be careful not to try to be a > > general-purpose progressive movement. > > > > Regards, > > > > Chris > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
