I believe administrators outside of the US, in en wikipedia and in wikidata etc., do not understand, our freedom of speech and our right to due process, and
that there is a cultural misunderstanding and a lack of patience on there part, which leads to an abuse of power and a breaking of the rules when it comes to blocking IP’s and others for just standing up for themselves. and to that end, do not see the good faith edits made, that were not reverted, and based on other’s intelligent level not there's. Everything starts out nice, on tea room’s, noticeboards, forums, and on there talk pages etc., and then all goes south, as in en wikipedia, and with a now “conflict of interest” just block you, to end it. In wikidata which is more technically challenging, editors that claim ownership of pages and coming from outside of north America and europe, revert on misunderstanding’s, and can not express themselves in english, so just rely on administrators noticeboard to complain against IP’s without warning, not giving the chance for the ip to defend himself, and to explain that it was an edit war. administrators that see these posts at 100’s an hour, just block the IP’s or the pages without any kind of investigation, based on lies of the accusers. and these same administrators that have participated on there talk pages are now in a “conflict of interest”, being directly involved. and in ru wikipedia, ru wikidata, english speakers are not welcome, from there board down to there users. -------- Forwarded message -------- From: Pine W <wiki.p...@gmail.com> To: Wiki Research-l <wiki-researc...@lists.wikimedia.org>, Rosie Stephenson-Goodknight <rosiestep.w...@gmail.com> Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 10:08 PM -05:00 Subject: Re: [Wiki-research-l] Results from 2018 global Wikimedia survey are published! I'm appreciative that we're having this conversation - not in the sense that I'm happy with the status quo, but I'm glad that some of us are continuing to work on our persistent difficulties with contributor retention, civility, and diversity. I've spent several hours on ENWP recently, and I've been surprised by the willingness of people to revert good-faith edits, sometimes with blunt commentary or with no explanation. I can understand how a newbie who experienced even one of these incidents would find it to be unpleasant, intimidating, or discouraging. Based on these experiences, I've decided that I should coach newbies to avoid taking reversions personally if their original contributions were in good faith. I agree with Jonathan Morgan that WP:NOTSOCIAL can be overused. Kerry, I appreciate your suggestions about about cultural change. I can think of two ways to influence culture on English Wikipedia in large-scale ways. 1. I think that there should be more and higher-quality training and continuing education for administrators in topics like policies, conflict resolution, communications skills, legal issues, and setting good examples. I think that these trainings would be one way through which cultural change could gradually happen over time. For what it's worth, I think that there are many excellent administrators who do a lot of good work (which can be tedious and/or stressful) with little appreciation. Also, my impression is that ENWP Arbcom has become more willing over the years to remove admin privileges from admins who misuse their tools. I recall having a discussion awhile back with Rosie on the topic of training for administrators, and I'm adding her to this email chain as an invitation for her to participate in this discussion. I think that offering training to administrators could be helpful in facilitating changes to ENWP culture. 2. I think that I can encourage civil participation in ENWP in the context of my training project < https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Rapid/Pine/Continuation_of_educational_video_and_website_project > that I'm hoping that WMF will continue to fund. ENWP is a complex and sometimes emotionally difficult environment, and I'm trying to set a tone in the online training materials that is encouraging. I hope to teach newbies about the goals of Wikipedia as well as policies, how to use tools, and Wikipedia culture. I am hopeful that the online training materials will improve the confidence of new contributors, improve the retention of new contributors, and help new editors to increase the quality and quantity of their contributions. I hope that early portions of the project will be well received and that, over time and if the project is successful as it incrementally increases in scale and reach, that it will influence the overall culture of ENWP to be more civil. 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