Excuse for what? Whatever process is used needs to have integrity to be
accepted.  We are supposed to be inclusive and transparent, right?

On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 15:15 David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com wrote:

> Forgive me, but this is coming across as hopping from excuse to excuse.
> On Tue, 27 Nov 2018 at 18:03, Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > It is important that any wiki process be applied fairly.  In this case I
> > think the Croatian wiki cannot be the first to have a new process
> applied.
> > I hope that the process that Gerard recommends has been validated in some
> > way that meets with broad, nearly universal approval.
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:37 PM Gerard Meijssen <
> gerard.meijs...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hoi,
> > > We have a database with all the citations of all Wikipedias. That
> database
> > > is integrated in wikidata as we speak. What we should do is eat our own
> > > medicine and compare sources on the same subject when the subject is
> > > controversial. Our overriding policy is for Wikipedia to have a neutral
> > > point of view. So while Croation sources are fine, they need to be
> balanced
> > > for a NPOV. When sources with a different viewpoint are available,
> ignoring
> > > them is not an option.
> > >
> > > At the same time, there are sources that have been found to be
> > > untrustworthy. At some stage, sources, any and all sources can be
> assessed
> > > and even rejected.
> > >
> > > Admins and bureaucrats have their authority because they promise to
> adhere
> > > to the universal Wikipedia policies, the other reason is the trust
> their
> > > community gave them at one time. In the end, we have the mechanisms
> and the
> > > methods to assess the NPOV and the quality of articles. We have the
> > > mechanisms and methods to assess the functioning of people who are
> trusted
> > > to adhere to our policies.
> > > Thanks,
> > >         GerardM
> > >
> > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 19:15, Ilario Valdelli <valde...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > > History does not require a judge. It's the storiography to be judge.
> > > >
> > > > Here the problem is to give relevance to some sources and to neglect
> > > > (completely) others.
> > > >
> > > > If a single not neutral source is considered as the Holy Bible, the
> same
> > > > pillars of Wikipedia are infringed.
> > > >
> > > > Kind regards
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2018, 14:06 Dennis During <dcdur...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Who is the judge? Are we going to join Facebook, Google, Twitter,
> et al
> > > > as
> > > > > the new press barons?
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