You keep mentioning this Anglo-Centric / Wikipedia centric focus of the WMF.
WMDE receives substantial monetary support from WMF for Wikidata. Only two years ago dedicated grant funded work was made specific for Wikidata on Commons for both WMF and WMDE. New Editors are working with the Korea and Czech Wikipedias first and foremost. New Readers are first and foremost working in India and South America. The majority of FDC grant funding does not go to English speaking countries. The global partnerships team have an almost entirely non-European / non-Anglo centric focus. The Public Policy team (staff and volunteer) along with staff across the organisation have been working over the past year actively fighting the EU copyright proposal which now has an increasingly non-English centric focus thanks to Brexit. The WMF staff have been becoming more diverse in ethnicity, native country and native language year on year. What makes me laugh is you say the WMF designs for the English Wikipedia and yet so many engineers I speak to say that it's impossible to design and build for the English Wikipedia and port elsewhere and that it's better to design for non-English wiki's and apply to English. More change is needed but please recognise that things are changing. On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:15 AM Gerard Meijssen <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Thank you for your sense of superiority.. the views on this list are "easy > to have"and "not the big, difficult questions". > > These are some big difficult questions I can come up with: > > - how will we deal with the existing bias that is Anglo-American.. > - how will we deal with the existing bias that is articles in Wikipedia, > our aim is to share in the sum of all knowledge.. > - how will we deal with the 6% error rates that is in Wikipedia lists > > There are more issues but, hey you should not overload one email and deal > with multiple issues.. So lets focus on what *you* consider the big > difficult questions making this rebranding issue not so relevant.. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 10:53, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > In many ways yes - not that branding isnt important, but these two > > conversations are a great example of people engaging with the narrow > > questions that are easy to have a view on, and not the big, difficult > > questions. > > > > (Though also, there is nothing more interesting on the working group > email > > lists - the summaries are high level and the documents are high level > > because that's where we're at....) > > > > On Mon, 15 Apr 2019, 21:09 James Salsman, <jsals...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I withdraw any opinions and suggestions about the branding discussion, > > > and don't intend to continue participating in it. Instead, I would > > > like to have a more substantive discussion: > > > > > > (1) I ask that the CTO search team please publish their search and > > > requirement criteria, including the CTO job description and any and > > > all goals for the CTO position whether in current planning documents > > > or unpublished drafts of planning materials. > > > > > > (2) Why are the Strategy Working Group lists not on > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo ? I recall several people > > > involved with the strategy process as saying it is "open" and asking > > > at length for additional participation (e.g. > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCFzA3PEaQ&t=23m and > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxCFzA3PEaQ&t=30m et seq.) To be > > > honest, there doesn't seem to be much community engagement from > > > working groups or strategy process facilitators on meta, and the > > > meeting summaries are very abstract and difficult to understand. 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