This seems like a mighty menacing line of discourse, coming from someone in
a position to initiate a block.  I don't think I should participate in any
WP or WMF or Commons or WikiData discussions if such menace is the norm.

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:05 PM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> It wasn't hostile Pine, but it wasn't a great idea to call out one of the
> few women on the chain for assuming bad faith given some of the other
> statements and assertions on the thread.
>
> I did not make any assumptions on the motivations of those who take part in
> the on wiki discussions, I just stated that the results were often hostile
> environments which make engagement difficult or intimidating. And then I am
> name checked for making this rather mundane and oft cited issue. It was
> just a poor choice given the circumstances overall.
>
> I don't take part as a I don't want my "card to be marked" or have certain
> editors monitoring my on wiki contributions based on assumptions made about
> me and my editing motivations.
>
> On Thu 13 Jun 2019, 00:33 Pine W, <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I'm sorry if my post sounded hostile. I wish that I knew what to say.
> >
> >
> > Pine
> > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 16:19 Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanin...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Pine,
> > >
> > > While I appreciate your attempt at guidance here, given some of the
> > > messages in the chain the fact that you are calling me out as assuming
> > bad
> > > faith out of all the participants does not inspire me to take part at
> > all.
> > >
> > > Thanks, but I feel that I might just go back to deleting these onerous
> > > threads as has been my custom in the past rather than be singled out in
> > > such a manner.
> > >
> > > If I had wanted to be tone policed o would have engaged with the
> on-wiki
> > > conversation.
> > >
> > > Rebecca
> > >
> > > On Wed 12 Jun 2019, 23:58 Pine W, <wiki.p...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Rebecca,
> > > >
> > > > These conversations can be stressful for many of us, including me.
> > > >
> > > > Speaking up in public can take courage. Thank you for participating
> > here,
> > > > and I encourage you to continue to participate even if you are in the
> > > > minority regarding a certain discussion.
> > > >
> > > > I know that this can be difficult to do, and it's sometimes difficult
> > for
> > > > me to do, but please be careful about linking strong opinions with
> > > assuming
> > > > bad faith on the part of the people who state those opinions.
> Sometimes
> > > > there are good reasons for assuming bad faith, but I think that it's
> > easy
> > > > for many of us, including me, to rush to the conclusion that someone
> > who
> > > > disagrees with me may be acting in bad faith.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry if you feel that you are not welcome here. Public
> > discussions
> > > > can be rough, but personally I think that they are usually for the
> > best.
> > > >
> > > > I hope that my comments here are somehow encouraging.
> > > >
> > > > Pine
> > > > ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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