> > Here's a fundamental source of disagreement. It gets at something I'm not > sure the strategy process is properly addressing. Does the WMF lead and > direct the Wikimedia movement?
Personally, I don't think the WMF knows the answer to this, either in practice, or what they want. We are in a sort of weird situation where "the WMF" often feel they don't have any power because "the community" won't let them exercise it, and/or they (as the WMF) don't feel they have enough mandate or are representative enough to do things. At the same time, most of "the community" feels they don't have any significant power or influence because the WMF makes the real decisions and no-one is ever going to pay attention to them, the individual community member. Part of the reason the WMF has outsourced much of its long-term planning to the Movement Strategy process is because it isn't confident it has the mandate to actually make decisions like this. Or is its role to provide support and > services to the movement's contributors, who are (collectively) its > leaders? Should it impose change on projects based on its own determination > of need, or respond to needs identified by project communities? > I think really it depends on the quality of leadership provided by movement contributors. Indeed, when Wikipedia was first set up the whole idea was about empowering everyone to make decisions and assuming that good-faith contributors would work issues out between them. This has turned out to not work in many important areas, for reasons that I won't attempt to go into here (and no, it's not all the WMF's fault) > I think this becomes the true basis of the anger and resistance on the > English Wikipedia: *the sense that the WMF has declared that it is > leading now, instead of supporting*. That's also the message in comments > that assert the WMF has the authority to do what it likes, and no > obligation to explain or justify its decisions. Each time the WMF has taken > similar decisions the reaction has been similar, but as I mentioned in a > previous post... They are not learning the appropriate lessons. I think you have correctly identified why so many very active Wikipedians get so frustrated with the WMF. I am not sure how much light that sheds on the right solution, though. Chris _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>