On 26.06.19 01:22, Yair Rand wrote: > בתאריך יום ג׳, 25 ביוני 2019 ב-18:02 מאת Lucas Werkmeister < > m...@lucaswerkmeister.de>: > >> On 25.06.19 23:18, Yair Rand wrote: >>> So far outside Wikimedia >>> spaces that the only place it was even _announced_ was an off-wiki >> mailing >>> list? >> >> Where would you have announced it, then? I asked for a movement-wide >> announcement place a while ago in a different context [1] and got no >> satisfactory answer; the most popular one was wikimedia-l (this list), >> and the only on-wiki answers were “the village pumps” (i. e. scattered) >> – with the caveat that you should translate your message first, which >> doesn’t scale well. I’m not saying the Space shouldn’t have been >> announced anywhere else, but it certainly seems to me that there is a >> need for a space like it, and in particular I don’t understand why you >> criticize the choice of wikimedia-l for the initial announcement when >> there seems to be good consensus for it being a central movement >> announcement and discussion platform. >> >> [1]: https://twitter.com/LucasWerkmeistr/status/1107337860389265413 > > > I would have publicly announced it at least on the place that it's trying > to replace: Meta-wiki.
Sorry if this sounds like I’m just repeating the question, but where on metawiki specifically? Because there’s no such thing as a village pump there, as far as I’m aware – a page titled Village pump [1] exists, but it’s just a redirect to Wikimedia Forum [2], which is described as “a central place for *questions and discussions* about the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects” (emphasis mine). It’s not a place for announcements, and there are no other announcements on it, so I certainly wouldn’t expect the Wikimedia Space announcement to be there. Meta:Discussion pages [3] also emphasizes that Wikimedia Forum is a page about the Wikimedia Foundation, whereas Wikimedia Space should be, as I understand it, a movement-wide thing (though initiated by the Foundation). I maintain that there is no single on-wiki place for movement-wide announcements like this, and wikimedia-l is currently the most obvious venue; and since Discourse can offer several improvements over a mailing list (no need to set up a pseudonymous email if you want to remain anonymous, and it’s easier to follow a discussion without subscribing to the list), I’m excited about the possibilities this brings. Cheers, Lucas PS: Minor note about the automatic promotion on Discourse – to my own surprise, I earned level 1 just a few minutes after sending my other email. It’s a much lower barrier than autoconfirmed status :) [1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump [2]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum [3]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Discussion_pages _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>
