Yes, like Samuel I'm excited to see some experimentation with alternative (and hopefully better) mediums for community engagement.
Adrian Raddatz On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:05 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote: > I love the idea of experimenting like this. > More like this please. The simpler and lighter weight experiments can be > (w little drama ;) the more of possibility space we can explore. > > And that's a space we should all be excited by. > > On Wed., Jun. 26, 2019, 12:47 p.m. Quim Gil, <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > > > Hi, thank you for your feedback about Wikimedia Space. > > > > So far, there have been many comments focusing on _who_ has released > _what_ > > and _how_. Let me tell you _why_ we are proposing Wikimedia Space. People > > agreeing on _why_ can agree on the rest way easier. > > > > Wikimedia Space is all about Wikimedia growth. If you are supporting > > newcomers or you are contributing to the growth of the Wikimedia movement > > in other ways, we are very interested in your opinions, your suggestions, > > your needs. And we are especially interested in hearing from you if you > are > > a promoter of movement diversity and/or part of any kind of group > > underrepresented in Wikimedia. > > > > Why Wikimedia Space, in more detail: > > > > From the Wikimedia movement strategic direction - > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20 > > > > * Knowledge equity > > > > > > From the Wikimedia Foundation medium-term plan - > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019 > > > > * Grow participation globally, focusing on emerging markets > > * Thriving movement > > * Support to newcomers > > * Strong, diverse, and innovative communities that represent the World > > * Strong and empowered movement leaders and affiliates > > * Safe, secure spaces and equitable, efficient processes for all > > participants > > > > I hope this explains our _why_. About some of the points mentioned... > > > > Wikimedia Space is a proposal to the movement in the form of a prototype > > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/what-do-mean-here-by-prototype/188/4 > . > > We believe it will generate interest, feedback, criticism and > contributions > > in a number of ways that a text-only proposal in (say) Meta Wiki wouldn't > > achieve. > > > > For instance, while we discuss here in a black & white and text-only > > environment, more than 60 colorful users have signed up already and > > Wikimedia Space and are getting their own impressions about it. > > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/u . > > > > Or for instance, several event organizers just signed up and added their > > event to the Wikimedia Space map, which, if you ask me, after just one > day > > already looks fresh, beautiful and interesting: > > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/events/l/map > > > > We are happy to discuss possibilities for connection / integration / > > migration between Wikimedia Space and existing community channels. As a > > matter of fact, wikimedia-l could potentially benefit from the features > > offered by Wikimedia Space (a conversation started in this list by > > volunteers years ago): > > > > > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/integrating-mailing-lists-to-wikimedia-space/136 > > > > Wikimedia Space doesn't prevent improvements in Meta or other places. If > > anything, we believe it will become an incentive for improvements in all > > community channels willing to keep up. In our opinion, potential > > improvements in Meta shouldn't prevent the release of Wikimedia Space. > What > > you see today is the result of about three weeks of part time work by > four > > people. Now consider how much time would it take to discuss, agree, > > resource and implement an equivalent feature set in MediaWiki, and (just > as > > important) equivalent social expectations and norms in the Meta > community. > > > > We are just starting to promote Wikimedia Space. Yesterday we did an > > initial announcement to get a first wave of users, see how the prototype > > would take hold, and gauge the initial response. We plan to continue > > promoting Wikimedia Space in more channels. In fact, you can help. If > there > > is a channel missing, please point to its URL, or (even better) feel free > > to forward the announcement yourself. > > > > If you have found an actionable problem, we welcome bug reports and > feature > > requests: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/space/ > > > > We encourage you to give Wikimedia Space a try. Even if today someone > > remains unconvinced, signing up won't hurt them. Then give it a week, and > > let us know. We really mean it! Prototypes always contribute to better > > discussions. > > > > Best regards, > > -- > > Quim Gil > > Senior Manager of Community Relations @ Wikimedia Foundation > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Qgil-WMF > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: Wikimediaemail@example.com > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimediafirstname.lastname@example.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-requ...@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>