Yes, like Samuel I'm excited to see some experimentation with alternative
(and hopefully better) mediums for community engagement.

Adrian Raddatz


On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:05 PM Samuel Klein <meta...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I love the idea of experimenting like this.
> More like this please.  The simpler and lighter weight experiments can be
> (w little drama ;) the more of possibility space we can explore.
>
> And that's a space we should all be excited by.
>
> On Wed., Jun. 26, 2019, 12:47 p.m. Quim Gil, <q...@wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi, thank you for your feedback about Wikimedia Space.
> >
> > So far, there have been many comments focusing on _who_ has released
> _what_
> > and _how_. Let me tell you _why_ we are proposing Wikimedia Space. People
> > agreeing on _why_ can agree on the rest way easier.
> >
> > Wikimedia Space is all about Wikimedia growth. If you are supporting
> > newcomers or you are contributing to the growth of the Wikimedia movement
> > in other ways, we are very interested in your opinions, your suggestions,
> > your needs. And we are especially interested in hearing from you if you
> are
> > a promoter of movement diversity and/or part of any kind of group
> > underrepresented in Wikimedia.
> >
> > Why Wikimedia Space, in more detail:
> >
> > From the Wikimedia movement strategic direction -
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
> >
> > * Knowledge equity
> >
> >
> > From the Wikimedia Foundation medium-term plan -
> >
> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019
> >
> > * Grow participation globally, focusing on emerging markets
> > * Thriving movement
> > * Support to newcomers
> > * Strong, diverse, and innovative communities that represent the World
> > * Strong and empowered movement leaders and affiliates
> > * Safe, secure spaces and equitable, efficient processes for all
> > participants
> >
> > I hope this explains our _why_. About some of the points mentioned...
> >
> > Wikimedia Space is a proposal to the movement in the form of a prototype
> > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/what-do-mean-here-by-prototype/188/4
> .
> > We believe it will generate interest, feedback, criticism and
> contributions
> > in a number of ways that a text-only proposal in (say) Meta Wiki wouldn't
> > achieve.
> >
> > For instance, while we discuss here in a black & white and text-only
> > environment, more than 60 colorful users have signed up already and
> > Wikimedia Space and are getting their own impressions about it.
> > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/u .
> >
> > Or for instance, several event organizers just signed up and added their
> > event to the Wikimedia Space map, which, if you ask me, after just one
> day
> > already looks fresh, beautiful and interesting:
> > https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/events/l/map
> >
> > We are happy to discuss possibilities for connection / integration /
> > migration between Wikimedia Space and existing community channels. As a
> > matter of fact, wikimedia-l could potentially benefit from the features
> > offered by Wikimedia Space (a conversation started in this list by
> > volunteers years ago):
> >
> >
> https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/integrating-mailing-lists-to-wikimedia-space/136
> >
> > Wikimedia Space doesn't prevent improvements in Meta or other places. If
> > anything, we believe it will become an incentive for improvements in all
> > community channels willing to keep up. In our opinion, potential
> > improvements in Meta shouldn't prevent the release of Wikimedia Space.
> What
> > you see today is the result of about three weeks of part time work by
> four
> > people. Now consider how much time would it take to discuss, agree,
> > resource and implement an equivalent feature set in MediaWiki, and (just
> as
> > important) equivalent social expectations and norms in the Meta
> community.
> >
> > We are just starting to promote Wikimedia Space. Yesterday we did an
> > initial announcement to get a first wave of users, see how the prototype
> > would take hold, and gauge the initial response. We plan to continue
> > promoting Wikimedia Space in more channels. In fact, you can help. If
> there
> > is a channel missing, please point to its URL, or (even better) feel free
> > to forward the announcement yourself.
> >
> > If you have found an actionable problem, we welcome bug reports and
> feature
> > requests: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/space/
> >
> > We encourage you to give Wikimedia Space a try. Even if today someone
> > remains unconvinced, signing up won't hurt them. Then give it a week, and
> > let us know. We really mean it! Prototypes always contribute to better
> > discussions.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > --
> > Quim Gil
> > Senior Manager of Community Relations @ Wikimedia Foundation
> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Qgil-WMF
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